1 00:00:07,700 --> 00:00:04,900 good afternoon and welcome to our 2 00:00:09,770 --> 00:00:07,710 sts-135 Flight Readiness review news 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:09,780 conference which followed today's 4 00:00:14,030 --> 00:00:11,610 meeting here at Kennedy Space Center to 5 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:14,040 determine the launch date for sts-135 6 00:00:18,890 --> 00:00:17,310 and with us today on our panel at NASA's 7 00:00:21,010 --> 00:00:18,900 associate administrator for Space 8 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:21,020 Operations mr. bill Gerstenmaier 9 00:00:26,509 --> 00:00:24,090 afternoon space shuttle program launch 10 00:00:28,759 --> 00:00:26,519 integration manager Mike Moses Jeffery 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:28,769 and shuttle launch director Mike 12 00:00:33,260 --> 00:00:31,170 Leinbach afternoon everybody we'll begin 13 00:00:34,729 --> 00:00:33,270 with comments and then we'll be happy to 14 00:00:38,810 --> 00:00:34,739 take your questions mr. Gerstenmaier 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:38,820 thanks Mike we set july eight the for 16 00:00:43,940 --> 00:00:41,250 the launch that I think the in-plane 17 00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:43,950 time is eleven twenty six a.m. we had a 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:46,710 very thorough review like our previous 19 00:00:52,729 --> 00:00:49,890 FR RS we spent quite a bit of time going 20 00:00:54,110 --> 00:00:52,739 over each activity that is going to 21 00:00:55,610 --> 00:00:54,120 occur on this flight there's some unique 22 00:00:57,020 --> 00:00:55,620 things that are associated with this 23 00:00:59,119 --> 00:00:57,030 flight the fact we have four crew 24 00:01:00,979 --> 00:00:59,129 members cuts down a little bit on some 25 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:00,989 of the crew time to get things done so 26 00:01:04,039 --> 00:01:02,460 we had to make some adjustments to make 27 00:01:06,679 --> 00:01:04,049 sure that that would all fit and that 28 00:01:10,039 --> 00:01:06,689 all worked out well we also have the 29 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:10,049 unique contingency crew support plan in 30 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:12,000 case we have orbiter damage we're going 31 00:01:16,190 --> 00:01:13,680 to use the Soyuz spacecraft which we 32 00:01:18,050 --> 00:01:16,200 talked about before we reviewed that in 33 00:01:20,060 --> 00:01:18,060 a lot of detail we went over exactly 34 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:20,070 what equipment is pre-positioned where 35 00:01:25,969 --> 00:01:22,860 what our options are if we go into that 36 00:01:28,190 --> 00:01:25,979 activity and kind of the bottom outcome 37 00:01:29,630 --> 00:01:28,200 of that whole discussion was that even 38 00:01:32,510 --> 00:01:29,640 though we're using a different means to 39 00:01:34,039 --> 00:01:32,520 provide crew rescue capability it's as 40 00:01:35,569 --> 00:01:34,049 least as good as what we had with the 41 00:01:37,069 --> 00:01:35,579 shuttle in some ways it's actually 42 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:37,079 better than what we had with the shuttle 43 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:38,729 and the fact we would have some medical 44 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:41,100 capability to return crew members on a 45 00:01:44,899 --> 00:01:43,200 Soyuz if we needed to sometime during 46 00:01:46,730 --> 00:01:44,909 that period so there's there's some 47 00:01:48,499 --> 00:01:46,740 unique advantages of this alternate 48 00:01:51,230 --> 00:01:48,509 scenario that it's not just a one for 49 00:01:52,819 --> 00:01:51,240 one difference there's actually a good 50 00:01:55,219 --> 00:01:52,829 trade between the two we spent quite a 51 00:01:58,459 --> 00:01:55,229 bit talking time talking about that we 52 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:58,469 also reviewed the previous anomalies we 53 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:01,920 saw on the vehicles that flew before we 54 00:02:08,510 --> 00:02:05,369 talked about the tire fire that we saw 55 00:02:10,369 --> 00:02:08,520 in the runway a post landing again we 56 00:02:12,140 --> 00:02:10,379 think that's almost a nominal kind of 57 00:02:14,149 --> 00:02:12,150 occurrence the small amount of 58 00:02:15,470 --> 00:02:14,159 brake fluid or hydraulic fluid that 59 00:02:17,210 --> 00:02:15,480 could be there that would flash would 60 00:02:19,610 --> 00:02:17,220 leave no suit didn't rip any temp 61 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:19,620 sensors there's some very small wires in 62 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:21,329 that area so there was no really heat 63 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:23,250 associated with that it could be an 64 00:02:26,539 --> 00:02:24,720 occurrence that actually occurs during 65 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:26,549 daylight landings if there's a small 66 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:28,319 amount of fluid there that would would 67 00:02:32,569 --> 00:02:30,720 burn off or flash off and we would not 68 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:32,579 see it during a daylight landing but we 69 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:35,310 reviewed that in extensive details we 70 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:38,489 went over really a very thorough review 71 00:02:42,979 --> 00:02:40,560 I was continually impressed by the teams 72 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:42,989 how much they continued to dig into each 73 00:02:46,670 --> 00:02:44,970 and every problem we talked about the 74 00:02:48,410 --> 00:02:46,680 main engine valve that leaked during the 75 00:02:50,990 --> 00:02:48,420 tanking test we spent quite a bit of 76 00:02:53,420 --> 00:02:51,000 time going over that they've dismantled 77 00:02:55,610 --> 00:02:53,430 the valve about California they found a 78 00:02:57,530 --> 00:02:55,620 small particle in the valve on the valve 79 00:02:59,149 --> 00:02:57,540 seat that could be a contributor to what 80 00:03:00,979 --> 00:02:59,159 we saw on the pad so that's an 81 00:03:02,420 --> 00:03:00,989 encouraging thing that by changing that 82 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:02,430 component out we've got a good 83 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:04,980 configuration out on the launch pad I 84 00:03:09,020 --> 00:03:06,810 was also tremendously impressed by the 85 00:03:12,020 --> 00:03:09,030 team and the ability for them to keep 86 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:12,030 working issues that come up the fuel 87 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:13,530 valve change out was new work for the 88 00:03:16,970 --> 00:03:15,120 teams down here at Kennedy they did a 89 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:16,980 great job of working that into the flow 90 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:20,489 and getting that activity done so again 91 00:03:23,569 --> 00:03:21,930 I think overall it was a very thorough 92 00:03:25,490 --> 00:03:23,579 review it wasn't much different than our 93 00:03:27,170 --> 00:03:25,500 other flight ratings reviews as I've 94 00:03:30,289 --> 00:03:27,180 told you before I kind of you know 95 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:30,299 really wanted us to stay on target and 96 00:03:33,649 --> 00:03:31,889 keep thinking about the mission in front 97 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:33,659 of us keep thinking about our the task 98 00:03:37,819 --> 00:03:35,430 that we've got to go do this flight is 99 00:03:40,069 --> 00:03:37,829 incredibly important to space station 100 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:40,079 the cargo that is coming up on this 101 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:43,500 flight is is really mandatory for for 102 00:03:47,119 --> 00:03:45,090 Space Station you can see that in our 103 00:03:48,890 --> 00:03:47,129 minimum duration flight duration for 104 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:48,900 this mission it's a 10-day mission and 105 00:03:53,569 --> 00:03:50,609 that essentially allows us to get all 106 00:03:55,699 --> 00:03:53,579 the cargo off of the MPL em and return 107 00:03:57,379 --> 00:03:55,709 some cargo on the MPL em in the shuttle 108 00:03:59,689 --> 00:03:57,389 even if in the event we have a shuttle 109 00:04:01,759 --> 00:03:59,699 anomaly that wants us to return early so 110 00:04:03,559 --> 00:04:01,769 that kind of implies to you how critical 111 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:03,569 this mission is from a resupply 112 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:05,190 standpoint that we're willing to stay on 113 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:07,440 orbit with some small orbiter failures 114 00:04:11,569 --> 00:04:09,780 to get these minimum critical transfer 115 00:04:13,610 --> 00:04:11,579 tasks done so the teams have done a 116 00:04:16,009 --> 00:04:13,620 great job I think they did a tremendous 117 00:04:17,689 --> 00:04:16,019 job today of staying on point talking 118 00:04:19,129 --> 00:04:17,699 about what we needed to talk about get 119 00:04:21,170 --> 00:04:19,139 ready for the mission get ready for the 120 00:04:23,089 --> 00:04:21,180 launch and make sure that we are really 121 00:04:24,649 --> 00:04:23,099 ready to go do this mission like we've 122 00:04:25,370 --> 00:04:24,659 done the missions before so there wasn't 123 00:04:27,620 --> 00:04:25,380 much 124 00:04:29,630 --> 00:04:27,630 discussion no fanfare no unique 125 00:04:31,550 --> 00:04:29,640 activities at all with the FR I tried to 126 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:31,560 keep it as much as we could and the only 127 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:32,910 thing at the end was a little different 128 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:34,560 was that Mike suffered a knee gave a 129 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:36,960 picture to John Shannon of the fly 130 00:04:40,610 --> 00:04:38,490 around of the orbiter attached to 131 00:04:44,420 --> 00:04:40,620 station so the station program has it's 132 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:44,430 a self-portrait per se or Soyuz portrait 133 00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:46,710 I guess and I'll turn it over to Mike 134 00:04:50,750 --> 00:04:48,180 for any other comments all right thanks 135 00:04:53,180 --> 00:04:50,760 Bill let's see ya as bill mentioned a 136 00:04:54,770 --> 00:04:53,190 really thorough review today he covered 137 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:54,780 a lot of the technical issues we also 138 00:04:59,990 --> 00:04:57,810 talked an unexplained anomaly that we 139 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:00,000 had we saw in some of the imagery on the 140 00:05:04,220 --> 00:05:02,250 last mission right at SRB Sep one of the 141 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:04,230 cameras we have mounted on the SRV that 142 00:05:08,420 --> 00:05:06,210 looks back at the external tank inner 143 00:05:10,490 --> 00:05:08,430 tank captured a little cylindrical 144 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:10,500 debris piece tumbling by we've never 145 00:05:14,060 --> 00:05:12,690 seen anything like that before and so it 146 00:05:16,370 --> 00:05:14,070 really got us curious as to what that 147 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:16,380 could be we've done an extensive 148 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:18,390 investigation of all the returned 149 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:20,580 hardware nothing's missing all the 150 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:22,530 on-orbit photos we took of the external 151 00:05:26,420 --> 00:05:25,350 tank since we don't recover that and we 152 00:05:28,250 --> 00:05:26,430 didn't see anything there that looked 153 00:05:29,990 --> 00:05:28,260 like it was obvious we then went to the 154 00:05:31,550 --> 00:05:30,000 next level and just literally looked at 155 00:05:33,970 --> 00:05:31,560 all the components in that system up 156 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:33,980 near that attach point and looked from a 157 00:05:38,060 --> 00:05:36,720 geometrical perspective what parts are 158 00:05:40,670 --> 00:05:38,070 there that looked like that and what 159 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:40,680 could be in that area and went through 160 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:42,810 all that exhaustive stuff at the end of 161 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:44,280 the day we really didn't come up with 162 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:46,320 any any candidates we found one 163 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:49,050 component in the SRB system as it 164 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:50,970 attaches to the external tank there's a 165 00:05:54,590 --> 00:05:52,770 grounding strap that basically connects 166 00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:54,600 the external tank side hardware over to 167 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:56,910 the SRB side hardware and there's two 168 00:06:00,410 --> 00:05:58,170 connectors that plug into a little 169 00:06:02,270 --> 00:06:00,420 coupler and the coupler can detach on 170 00:06:03,470 --> 00:06:02,280 either end so as this if you think of it 171 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:03,480 it's a string with the connector in the 172 00:06:07,490 --> 00:06:05,910 middle and it pulls apart one end is 173 00:06:09,230 --> 00:06:07,500 going to come off and not the other it's 174 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:09,240 you know if you have a little connector 175 00:06:11,390 --> 00:06:10,290 in the middle and you pull it's not 176 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:11,400 going to come off on both sides 177 00:06:16,190 --> 00:06:13,740 whichever one's got the lowest pull 178 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:16,200 force will release we've we get this 179 00:06:19,820 --> 00:06:18,210 part back on the SRBs about half the 180 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:19,830 time we see that the couplers on this 181 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:21,990 SRB side the assumption is the other 182 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:23,610 half of the time it's on the ET side but 183 00:06:27,980 --> 00:06:26,160 we really can't prove that we did a lot 184 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:27,990 of testing and analysis and pull testing 185 00:06:32,330 --> 00:06:29,850 to show that we can't make this come off 186 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:32,340 in both sides at the same time and make 187 00:06:37,370 --> 00:06:34,860 this uncontained debris so it's a very 188 00:06:39,070 --> 00:06:37,380 unlikely release point but it's about 189 00:06:41,090 --> 00:06:39,080 the only thing left in the system that 190 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,100 geometrically looks like that that would 191 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:43,440 be exposed at that same time frame so we 192 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:45,360 kind of focused on that is a use that as 193 00:06:49,550 --> 00:06:48,240 our worst case our worst case look and 194 00:06:51,140 --> 00:06:49,560 we looked at it just to make sure we 195 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:51,150 understood what would happen if it did 196 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:54,510 come off and again the real rationale 197 00:06:57,770 --> 00:06:55,650 there is it's an extremely unlikely 198 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,780 thing to happen we validated our design 199 00:07:01,490 --> 00:06:59,520 we did test the show that we cannot 200 00:07:03,470 --> 00:07:01,500 create this this piece of debris to 201 00:07:05,690 --> 00:07:03,480 liberate but even if it did we have high 202 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:05,700 confidence in our tools are on orbit 203 00:07:08,630 --> 00:07:07,170 inspections and our imagery techniques 204 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:08,640 to be able to detect if it did hit the 205 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:10,530 shuttle and cause damage to the orbiter 206 00:07:13,580 --> 00:07:11,880 we would detect that and then be able to 207 00:07:15,410 --> 00:07:13,590 implement all the processes we have in 208 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:15,420 place to address any damage that it 209 00:07:19,220 --> 00:07:17,730 might cause if it did actually release 210 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:19,230 and then did actually transport and hit 211 00:07:24,050 --> 00:07:21,680 us but it was again like bill said and a 212 00:07:25,490 --> 00:07:24,060 testament to the investigation you know 213 00:07:27,590 --> 00:07:25,500 even here with one flight to go we went 214 00:07:29,750 --> 00:07:27,600 to the ants degree to look what possibly 215 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:29,760 could be there we did a bunch of testing 216 00:07:33,590 --> 00:07:31,860 we did a bunch of camera testing to 217 00:07:35,150 --> 00:07:33,600 really try to verify and validate that 218 00:07:37,190 --> 00:07:35,160 we understood even though it was an 219 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:37,200 unexplained piece of debris that we 220 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:38,400 really did understand as much as we 221 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:40,410 possibly could and understand the risk 222 00:07:45,230 --> 00:07:42,570 that that poses to us and deemed that it 223 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:45,240 was not at all to a level where we 224 00:07:48,290 --> 00:07:46,650 needed to be worried about it and it was 225 00:07:49,550 --> 00:07:48,300 acceptable to go ahead and fly even 226 00:07:51,980 --> 00:07:49,560 though we don't know exactly what the 227 00:07:54,350 --> 00:07:51,990 source of that debris was on the 228 00:07:57,380 --> 00:07:54,360 external tank side we did a tanking test 229 00:07:59,240 --> 00:07:57,390 now two weeks ago the main purpose there 230 00:08:01,130 --> 00:07:59,250 was to test the modifications we made to 231 00:08:02,570 --> 00:08:01,140 the inner tank stringers you recall a 232 00:08:04,220 --> 00:08:02,580 few missions back we had cracks on those 233 00:08:06,260 --> 00:08:04,230 stringers that we had to modify this 234 00:08:08,630 --> 00:08:06,270 tank is flying inner tank stringers made 235 00:08:11,330 --> 00:08:08,640 from that same metal from the lot that 236 00:08:13,730 --> 00:08:11,340 is a little defective and so we needed 237 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:13,740 to preemptively go reinforce the inner 238 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:15,840 tank we did that the tanking test was 239 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:17,310 just kind of the icing on the cake to 240 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:19,680 verify that that we truly understood all 241 00:08:23,180 --> 00:08:21,120 our models and all our inputs that there 242 00:08:25,850 --> 00:08:23,190 were no other forces at work that would 243 00:08:27,860 --> 00:08:25,860 cause cracks we did x-rays of the the 244 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:27,870 oxygen side flange and the hydrogen side 245 00:08:31,940 --> 00:08:30,210 flange as they face the shuttle so on 246 00:08:33,409 --> 00:08:31,950 the front side of that tank and found no 247 00:08:35,510 --> 00:08:33,419 cracks at all so that tanking test went 248 00:08:37,219 --> 00:08:35,520 off really well at the same time we were 249 00:08:39,260 --> 00:08:37,229 able to get a good check of the the foam 250 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:39,270 on the external tank it performed 251 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:40,770 fantastic it looks like it's in really 252 00:08:45,530 --> 00:08:43,710 great shape and as as bill said it had 253 00:08:46,820 --> 00:08:45,540 the the secondary effective in the main 254 00:08:48,620 --> 00:08:46,830 engine system as we were flowing the 255 00:08:50,390 --> 00:08:48,630 cold hydrogen through we discovered a 256 00:08:52,580 --> 00:08:50,400 leaky valve on the main engine that on 257 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:52,590 launch day would have caused us a scrub 258 00:08:55,610 --> 00:08:53,910 had to go in and do an R&R that would 259 00:08:57,260 --> 00:08:55,620 have the latest about a week so it was 260 00:08:58,670 --> 00:08:57,270 really for tortoise to have that one 261 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:58,680 identified ahead of time and and 262 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:00,240 screened out it kind of a reinforcement 263 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:02,640 of the it doesn't hurt to test what you 264 00:09:05,780 --> 00:09:04,170 fly every once in a while just to know 265 00:09:10,340 --> 00:09:05,790 what you're doing so that was a really 266 00:09:11,870 --> 00:09:10,350 good thing the the SRB guys showed us we 267 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:11,880 had a shoot failure parachute fell on 268 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:14,730 the one of the SRBs have one of the 269 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:17,160 three on an SRB had a rip go through it 270 00:09:19,970 --> 00:09:18,930 again they went through to the ants 271 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:19,980 degree to look at all the different 272 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:21,630 things that could happen we haven't had 273 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:23,310 very many shoots fail in the history of 274 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:25,770 the program but the damage is there to 275 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:27,210 show that this was probably deployment 276 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:29,580 damage kind of a rub as it comes out of 277 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:32,490 the out of the the canister it kind of 278 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:35,010 probably custom heating and reefed a 279 00:09:38,570 --> 00:09:37,170 little little early a little higher rate 280 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:38,580 it was also the first shoot on that set 281 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:40,500 of 32 reef therefore it took the highest 282 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:42,420 load and it just basically ripped itself 283 00:09:45,890 --> 00:09:44,250 apart the other two shoots carried the 284 00:09:47,780 --> 00:09:45,900 load just fine impact velocity was right 285 00:09:49,070 --> 00:09:47,790 about what it should be we but the 286 00:09:50,780 --> 00:09:49,080 systems designed to have a shoot failure 287 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:50,790 without any problems at all but again 288 00:09:54,650 --> 00:09:52,710 another good testament of the the detail 289 00:09:56,060 --> 00:09:54,660 that we went into even on the last 290 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:56,070 flight to make sure we understood the 291 00:09:58,910 --> 00:09:57,690 hardware for that that's a recovery 292 00:10:00,380 --> 00:09:58,920 thing you know it doesn't affect the 293 00:10:01,370 --> 00:10:00,390 safety of the crew at all but we didn't 294 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:01,380 want to make sure we understood that we 295 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:02,820 didn't have any pre-existing problems 296 00:10:06,740 --> 00:10:05,400 that might affect the next flight and 297 00:10:07,790 --> 00:10:06,750 then as bill said we've done the orbiter 298 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:07,800 side we talked a little bit about that 299 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:09,930 break fire just to make sure we truly 300 00:10:13,990 --> 00:10:11,610 understood its condition so again really 301 00:10:16,130 --> 00:10:14,000 good example of the detail we went into 302 00:10:17,390 --> 00:10:16,140 but to focus on the mission a second 303 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:17,400 just to go through some of the details I 304 00:10:20,570 --> 00:10:18,930 don't think you guys have had the the 305 00:10:22,550 --> 00:10:20,580 pre-flight briefings yet from the from 306 00:10:24,140 --> 00:10:22,560 the mo d folks and so you'll hear a lot 307 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:24,150 of this at the end of the week but 308 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:26,370 basically it's a 12-day mission we're 309 00:10:30,890 --> 00:10:28,710 looking to try to get an extra day right 310 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:30,900 now we it's a 12 plus zero we don't have 311 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:33,450 the consumables to have an extra day but 312 00:10:37,460 --> 00:10:35,610 but that's bookkeeping a fair number of 313 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:37,470 things one is to give Mike and the 314 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:39,240 launch team some some launch attempts 315 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:40,320 before we have to top off those 316 00:10:43,970 --> 00:10:42,720 cryotanks if we happen to go on time on 317 00:10:46,730 --> 00:10:43,980 the first attempt will carry a little 318 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:46,740 bit of extra cry up to orbit and then 319 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:48,330 the other thing they've looked at is the 320 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:50,610 MPL em as it's in the cargo bay has some 321 00:10:54,380 --> 00:10:52,800 shell heaters in it basically some low 322 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:54,390 temp eaters that turn on just to keep 323 00:10:58,250 --> 00:10:55,790 the temperatures and condensed 324 00:10:59,900 --> 00:10:58,260 condensation down they've looked at the 325 00:11:02,300 --> 00:10:59,910 specific attitude we're flying in the 326 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:02,310 specific thermal profile and the station 327 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:03,840 program is okay to not turn those 328 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:05,200 heaters on before we 329 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:06,850 doc and then also leave them off after 330 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:09,190 we undock that power savings will be 331 00:11:13,020 --> 00:11:11,260 enough if we do go on time to 332 00:11:14,910 --> 00:11:13,030 potentially give us or get us very close 333 00:11:16,140 --> 00:11:14,920 to having the capability of adding an 334 00:11:18,450 --> 00:11:16,150 extra day we'll call that an 335 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:18,460 energy-dependent day we'll have to wait 336 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:20,050 and assess that we'll go ahead and get 337 00:11:23,970 --> 00:11:22,210 dr. station we'll go ahead and not power 338 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:23,980 up those heaters and then after about 339 00:11:26,910 --> 00:11:25,330 two or three days a doctor station we'll 340 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:26,920 see how the consumptions going and be 341 00:11:30,030 --> 00:11:28,000 able to make the decision on whether we 342 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:30,040 have enough to stay up one more day as 343 00:11:33,540 --> 00:11:31,930 bill said it's pretty important to us in 344 00:11:34,890 --> 00:11:33,550 addition to all the cargo going up to 345 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:34,900 station one of the things I found 346 00:11:38,910 --> 00:11:36,730 interesting today is the MPL m's packed 347 00:11:41,850 --> 00:11:38,920 about a third full of food it's taken up 348 00:11:43,710 --> 00:11:41,860 about a year supply of food the return 349 00:11:45,810 --> 00:11:43,720 cargo is also equally important to get 350 00:11:48,210 --> 00:11:45,820 off of station most of its in the some 351 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:48,220 of its in the oru science we want back 352 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:50,650 but a lot of it's in that just trash and 353 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:52,000 clean up the stowage situation on 354 00:11:57,210 --> 00:11:54,880 station we're kind of doing a surge here 355 00:11:59,610 --> 00:11:57,220 and priests owing a lot of gear up on 356 00:12:01,140 --> 00:11:59,620 station to get us another year of life 357 00:12:03,710 --> 00:12:01,150 time in case we do have some problems 358 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:03,720 with with the the commercial orbital 359 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:05,770 resupply vehicles that are that are out 360 00:12:08,730 --> 00:12:07,510 there and they get delayed so this is 361 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:08,740 trying to guys buy some insurance but 362 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:09,790 what that does is put the stowage 363 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:11,770 situation on station in a real crunch so 364 00:12:15,570 --> 00:12:13,150 the most we can offload the stuff they 365 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:15,580 don't need with the better to fit the 366 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:17,410 timeline the MPL Em's coming back about 367 00:12:21,450 --> 00:12:20,050 75 to 80 percent full if we could get 368 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:21,460 that extra day on orbit we'd be able to 369 00:12:25,170 --> 00:12:22,960 get it packed one hundred percent full 370 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:25,180 and be able to get the last little bit 371 00:12:28,590 --> 00:12:26,530 of stuff off station so it's a really 372 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:28,600 important goal for us we're not going to 373 00:12:32,340 --> 00:12:30,880 do anything heroic to get it but it is 374 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:32,350 something we're going to strive to try 375 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:33,910 to gain that extra day if we can and 376 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:37,090 turn this into a 13-day mission just to 377 00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:38,500 step through the timeline flight day 378 00:12:42,330 --> 00:12:40,480 three is the regular rendezvous and dock 379 00:12:44,580 --> 00:12:42,340 on flight day for we'll go put the MPL 380 00:12:46,980 --> 00:12:44,590 em on station flight day five will be 381 00:12:49,020 --> 00:12:46,990 the only e VA for this mission and it's 382 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:49,030 going to be it'll be done out of the ISS 383 00:12:52,410 --> 00:12:50,710 airlock just like all the EV aces we've 384 00:12:54,060 --> 00:12:52,420 done lately but it'll be the station 385 00:12:55,770 --> 00:12:54,070 crew doing that Eve a not the shuttle 386 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:55,780 crew with the four-person shuttle crew 387 00:12:58,500 --> 00:12:56,770 we wanted to keep their training 388 00:13:00,000 --> 00:12:58,510 requirements to a minimum and not have 389 00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:00,010 them have to have any specific UVA 390 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:01,750 training so the station team will be 391 00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:04,800 going out their main tasks are basically 392 00:13:08,730 --> 00:13:06,670 in the back of the payload Bay in 393 00:13:11,430 --> 00:13:08,740 addition to the MPL em we're flying an 394 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:11,440 lmc cargo carrier it's a just a a cross 395 00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:13,750 bay cargo carrier on the way up hill 396 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:16,750 there is a robotics refueling module in 397 00:13:19,049 --> 00:13:18,610 our RM made by the Goddard Space Flight 398 00:13:21,149 --> 00:13:19,059 Center 399 00:13:24,599 --> 00:13:21,159 that's basically a testbed for robotics 400 00:13:27,109 --> 00:13:24,609 refueling demos it's kind of a very 401 00:13:30,689 --> 00:13:27,119 fancy tinker toy Lego system for the 402 00:13:32,879 --> 00:13:30,699 spdm to go up on orbit and and try and 403 00:13:35,579 --> 00:13:32,889 practice techniques of how you do remote 404 00:13:37,499 --> 00:13:35,589 refueling of satellites that's going to 405 00:13:39,359 --> 00:13:37,509 be left on station and then we're flying 406 00:13:41,219 --> 00:13:39,369 up an empty carrier to bring back down 407 00:13:42,959 --> 00:13:41,229 with us the failed pump module if you 408 00:13:45,269 --> 00:13:42,969 remember oh it's now probably going on a 409 00:13:47,789 --> 00:13:45,279 year we've had one of our external 410 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:47,799 thermal cooling loop system pump modules 411 00:13:51,059 --> 00:13:49,569 failed we do want to bring that one back 412 00:13:52,889 --> 00:13:51,069 for failure analysis so its up on 413 00:13:55,049 --> 00:13:52,899 station right now waiting to bring back 414 00:13:56,309 --> 00:13:55,059 down so the tasks of the EBA are to 415 00:13:58,019 --> 00:13:56,319 basically bring the failed pump module 416 00:13:59,879 --> 00:13:58,029 back into the payload bay take this 417 00:14:01,949 --> 00:13:59,889 refueling module over to station stow it 418 00:14:03,539 --> 00:14:01,959 on station and then a couple other get 419 00:14:06,599 --> 00:14:03,549 ahead tasks out on the the exterior 420 00:14:08,579 --> 00:14:06,609 station so that's evie a day the MPN 421 00:14:09,929 --> 00:14:08,589 would stay out until flight day 10 when 422 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:09,939 it gets put back in the shuttle payload 423 00:14:13,079 --> 00:14:11,529 Bay and then the next day would be 424 00:14:14,489 --> 00:14:13,089 undocking and it looks like a normal 425 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:14,499 timeline after that even though it's a 426 00:14:18,689 --> 00:14:16,929 four-person crew we done doc do a fly 427 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:18,699 around and then do our late inspection 428 00:14:22,709 --> 00:14:20,889 one other thing we're going to do in 429 00:14:24,179 --> 00:14:22,719 addition you saw last time we wanted to 430 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:24,189 get the Soyuz fly around to get some of 431 00:14:28,109 --> 00:14:26,409 that engineering view and just the 432 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:28,119 aesthetic views of a shuttle dock to 433 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:30,129 station this time we normally do a fly 434 00:14:33,569 --> 00:14:31,689 around the shuttle comes out backs off 435 00:14:36,479 --> 00:14:33,579 and then does a fly around what we call 436 00:14:37,979 --> 00:14:36,489 the x axis of the station which is the 437 00:14:39,749 --> 00:14:37,989 views you've seen all along that kind of 438 00:14:41,729 --> 00:14:39,759 the station solar arrays make it look 439 00:14:42,809 --> 00:14:41,739 like a TIE fighter up in orbit this time 440 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:42,819 we're going to back out the arm bar the 441 00:14:46,949 --> 00:14:44,409 station is going to turn 90 degrees and 442 00:14:48,089 --> 00:14:46,959 point its long axis at it so the trust 443 00:14:49,529 --> 00:14:48,099 with the solar arrays on it are going to 444 00:14:51,419 --> 00:14:49,539 be pointed at the station or the shuttle 445 00:14:53,219 --> 00:14:51,429 and then we'll fly around that long axis 446 00:14:54,779 --> 00:14:53,229 and so we'll get a different angle on 447 00:14:57,119 --> 00:14:54,789 some of the hardware some of those 448 00:14:58,769 --> 00:14:57,129 pieces of station don't get quite the 449 00:15:00,479 --> 00:14:58,779 photographic coverage that they would on 450 00:15:02,249 --> 00:15:00,489 a normal shuttle fly around so we're 451 00:15:03,629 --> 00:15:02,259 going to do this one to try to gain some 452 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:03,639 last-minute views before we lose that 453 00:15:07,019 --> 00:15:05,409 capability of having those high 454 00:15:09,689 --> 00:15:07,029 resolution pictures taken by the shuttle 455 00:15:11,249 --> 00:15:09,699 crew to save time because we have to 456 00:15:12,449 --> 00:15:11,259 wait while the station maneuvers 90 457 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:12,459 degrees we're only going to do a half of 458 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:13,689 a lap flyer I'm not going to go the 459 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:15,519 whole way around so a half a lap on a 460 00:15:19,169 --> 00:15:17,049 different axis should provide us some 461 00:15:21,179 --> 00:15:19,179 pretty unique views of the station for 462 00:15:23,339 --> 00:15:21,189 an engineering evaluation of how that 463 00:15:26,249 --> 00:15:23,349 system is doing after so many years up 464 00:15:28,019 --> 00:15:26,259 in orbit and then flight day 13 his 465 00:15:29,849 --> 00:15:28,029 entry setting us up for a landing on 466 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:29,859 July twentieth I think the time is 467 00:15:32,249 --> 00:15:31,209 tweaking a little bit but it's around 468 00:15:34,979 --> 00:15:32,259 seven a.m. local 469 00:15:36,659 --> 00:15:34,989 I'm it was 630 for a while but that's 470 00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:36,669 going to be there's some reboost going 471 00:15:39,299 --> 00:15:37,839 on the station so that time is going to 472 00:15:41,669 --> 00:15:39,309 move just a little bit but it's in the 473 00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:41,679 ballpark of 7am on July twentieth which 474 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:43,839 is pretty historical data to be landing 475 00:15:49,019 --> 00:15:46,689 anyway so so that's the mission in a 476 00:15:51,479 --> 00:15:49,029 nutshell it seems simple on paper it's 477 00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:51,489 just an MP am but like bill said the 478 00:15:54,569 --> 00:15:52,660 stuff inside that MP limb is 479 00:15:56,579 --> 00:15:54,579 unbelievably critical to the future of 480 00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:56,589 space station and so it's going to take 481 00:16:00,090 --> 00:15:57,759 a lot of effort to get it all out and 482 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:00,100 repacked in and in the right config so 483 00:16:03,090 --> 00:16:02,079 really looking forward to achieve in 484 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:03,100 this mission putting station where it 485 00:16:07,309 --> 00:16:04,720 needs to be and finishing strong with 486 00:16:10,259 --> 00:16:07,319 the shuttle program here with sts-135 487 00:16:12,239 --> 00:16:10,269 okay thanks Mike well say Atlantis is in 488 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:12,249 great shape out the pad the remaining 489 00:16:16,169 --> 00:16:14,410 pad flow is very very standard for us we 490 00:16:18,059 --> 00:16:16,179 got our ordnance connected up last night 491 00:16:19,949 --> 00:16:18,069 will close the payload bay doors for 492 00:16:21,419 --> 00:16:19,959 flight tomorrow afternoon tomorrow 493 00:16:23,849 --> 00:16:21,429 evening and thursday morning will 494 00:16:26,129 --> 00:16:23,859 pressurize the high-pressure gas bottles 495 00:16:28,529 --> 00:16:26,139 on the orbiter those are the NPS and 496 00:16:31,409 --> 00:16:28,539 hyper bottles that pressurize those 497 00:16:33,029 --> 00:16:31,419 systems it will close out the afte by 498 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:33,039 friday and we'll be able to take all 499 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:34,600 three days of the holiday weekend off 500 00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:36,399 come back to pick up launch countdown on 501 00:16:39,809 --> 00:16:38,079 tuesday the fifth and it's going to be 502 00:16:41,549 --> 00:16:39,819 very very easy pad flow force the 503 00:16:43,499 --> 00:16:41,559 remainder the way not expecting anything 504 00:16:46,049 --> 00:16:43,509 to crop up that would cause us to work 505 00:16:48,059 --> 00:16:46,059 this weekend the launch countdown itself 506 00:16:49,650 --> 00:16:48,069 is really one of the most standard ones 507 00:16:52,889 --> 00:16:49,660 we've had in quite some time we haven't 508 00:16:55,529 --> 00:16:52,899 we do not have a PSD offload this time 509 00:16:57,659 --> 00:16:55,539 it's a non spits vehicle and so we will 510 00:17:00,329 --> 00:16:57,669 not be offloading any of the locks in 511 00:17:02,249 --> 00:17:00,339 the fuel cell system and the rest of the 512 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:02,259 countdown is very standard will go for 513 00:17:07,619 --> 00:17:05,110 opening of the launch window 1121 local 514 00:17:08,909 --> 00:17:07,629 time on the eighth preferred time 11 26 515 00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:08,919 and that's probably what we will shoot 516 00:17:14,429 --> 00:17:11,679 for from a scrub turnaround perspective 517 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:14,439 there is a delta on the range on the on 518 00:17:18,750 --> 00:17:16,990 the fourteenth and that would cause us 519 00:17:20,759 --> 00:17:18,760 to stand down after our launch attempt 520 00:17:22,740 --> 00:17:20,769 on on the 10th so we have attempts on 521 00:17:24,779 --> 00:17:22,750 the 8th 9th and 10th and then we would 522 00:17:26,340 --> 00:17:24,789 stand down for the Delta so that would 523 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:26,350 give us two attempts in three days and 524 00:17:32,129 --> 00:17:29,769 hopefully that will be plenty 24 verses 525 00:17:34,590 --> 00:17:32,139 48 if we get into a scrub scenario on 526 00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:34,600 launch day I can all look at the reason 527 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:36,580 for the scrub and the time of the scrub 528 00:17:40,590 --> 00:17:38,370 itself relative to the visitors in town 529 00:17:42,210 --> 00:17:40,600 again we're expecting somewhere between 530 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:42,220 a half a million and three quarters of a 531 00:17:44,370 --> 00:17:43,360 million visitors and the local 532 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:44,380 communities 533 00:17:48,270 --> 00:17:46,090 that would it would cause the launch 534 00:17:49,980 --> 00:17:48,280 team and all other processing elements a 535 00:17:51,660 --> 00:17:49,990 delay in getting home and being able to 536 00:17:53,370 --> 00:17:51,670 come back for a 24-hour scrub turn 537 00:17:55,230 --> 00:17:53,380 around if we scrub late in the launch 538 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:55,240 window so we have that plan in place 539 00:17:58,890 --> 00:17:56,530 from a few flights ago and will 540 00:18:00,930 --> 00:17:58,900 implement that if we need to so team 541 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:00,940 Atlantis is feeling good about the about 542 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:03,010 the flow and the launch countdown and 543 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:04,690 hopefully we'll be able to to get her 544 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:06,370 off the ground on on pride of the eight 545 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:09,550 on the schedule Mike okay thank you Mike 546 00:18:13,380 --> 00:18:11,890 we'll begin with questions here at 547 00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:13,390 Kennedy Space Center and then we'll go 548 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:15,070 over to Johnson Space Center in Houston 549 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:17,110 and then take a question from the phone 550 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:20,080 line and then return to Kennedy to 551 00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,780 follow up and wrap things up please wait 552 00:18:25,770 --> 00:18:24,400 for the microphone state your name and 553 00:18:27,630 --> 00:18:25,780 affiliation and to whom you're 554 00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:27,640 addressing your question and we'll start 555 00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:29,710 with Marcia Marcia Dunn Associated Press 556 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:31,720 for bill um you mentioned the Soyuz 557 00:18:37,940 --> 00:18:33,580 rotation and how that you know would 558 00:18:41,130 --> 00:18:37,950 play in is one in 560 still the best 559 00:18:48,570 --> 00:18:41,140 risk estimate for that possibly 560 00:18:50,610 --> 00:18:48,580 happening why I don't know that's the 561 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:50,620 number that the commander had been using 562 00:18:57,180 --> 00:18:54,250 for them yeah I know I don't know what 563 00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:57,190 that would be based on it I don't I 564 00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:58,480 don't know we'd have to go we'll have to 565 00:19:03,330 --> 00:19:00,160 go look at that and get back with you 566 00:19:05,370 --> 00:19:03,340 I'd that doesn't ring a bell to me 567 00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:05,380 because rmmod slightly different other 568 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:06,880 things are different so I don't know 569 00:19:09,660 --> 00:19:08,650 where that comes from but we'll do a 570 00:19:11,070 --> 00:19:09,670 little homework and figure out where 571 00:19:12,330 --> 00:19:11,080 that number comes from and see if it's 572 00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:12,340 the right number it probably is if the 573 00:19:17,070 --> 00:19:13,780 commander said I'm just not familiar 574 00:19:19,530 --> 00:19:17,080 with it fine and it would be for four 575 00:19:21,630 --> 00:19:19,540 separate Soyuz coming up for each of the 576 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:21,640 four or wood to them be piggybacking on 577 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:23,590 one potentially could you just review 578 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:24,880 how that would work because I've heard 579 00:19:28,650 --> 00:19:26,260 different scenarios for that as well 580 00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:28,660 yeah I think we would we would again 581 00:19:32,490 --> 00:19:30,910 kind of play it by ear and see which way 582 00:19:34,620 --> 00:19:32,500 we go we could actually put two on a 583 00:19:36,570 --> 00:19:34,630 couple Soyuz we have one seat liner in 584 00:19:38,370 --> 00:19:36,580 the npl em that's going up on shuttle 585 00:19:40,410 --> 00:19:38,380 that could be used right away with one 586 00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:40,420 of the slaves so that makes sense the 587 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:42,520 way we laid it out at least for planning 588 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:44,260 purposes we left all the sources on 589 00:19:47,790 --> 00:19:45,670 their original launch dates where they 590 00:19:49,950 --> 00:19:47,800 are right now in the manifest it turns 591 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:49,960 out there seven resupply options during 592 00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:51,520 that period there's seven progress 593 00:19:55,020 --> 00:19:53,680 vehicles that will be flying during that 594 00:19:57,690 --> 00:19:55,030 period so there's lots of options to 595 00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:57,700 carry up unique supplies and gear 596 00:20:01,139 --> 00:19:59,440 what I think where we do it is we looked 597 00:20:03,690 --> 00:20:01,149 at it kind of from a worst case which is 598 00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:03,700 leave everything where it is and perturb 599 00:20:07,919 --> 00:20:05,740 the manifest the absolute minimum that 600 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:07,929 we we could and that's totally 601 00:20:11,970 --> 00:20:09,970 acceptable to us but then we would see 602 00:20:13,529 --> 00:20:11,980 how the situation panned out we'd see 603 00:20:15,899 --> 00:20:13,539 where we are with consumables we'd see 604 00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:15,909 how where we are with crew health how 605 00:20:19,379 --> 00:20:17,679 things are moving and then we can adapt 606 00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:19,389 and change around so it's a very 607 00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:22,000 flexible plan and really what we did is 608 00:20:25,230 --> 00:20:23,500 we laid out to make sure that there was 609 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:25,240 a credible path through this plan that 610 00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:27,190 could lead to success and could get our 611 00:20:32,460 --> 00:20:29,230 crews home in the remote possibility 612 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:32,470 that we had to go do this just to get 613 00:20:36,690 --> 00:20:34,450 rid of an orbiter on orbit and again I 614 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:36,700 think I stress to everyone even in the 615 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:38,769 review is that we don't really think 616 00:20:42,750 --> 00:20:40,990 this is a likely case this is kind of 617 00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,760 due diligence on our part to make sure 618 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:44,559 we are prepared that we have laid out a 619 00:20:49,649 --> 00:20:46,960 logical plan that we can use and 620 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:49,659 implement if this this problem occurs 621 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:51,220 and that's the way we treat it it's got 622 00:20:55,230 --> 00:20:53,200 lots of flexibility and it in an exact 623 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:55,240 way we would implement it will kind of 624 00:21:01,139 --> 00:20:57,970 depend upon how exactly things break is 625 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:01,149 as we go through the process Jay yeah 626 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:03,690 bill I have a real long question here 627 00:21:10,169 --> 00:21:07,570 when Atlantis goes up that's the last 628 00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:10,179 vehicle you have or even in your plans 629 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:14,529 that can do an externally VA repair no 630 00:21:19,139 --> 00:21:16,210 air locks the way I understand it are 631 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:19,149 planned on any future vehicles now with 632 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:22,690 that out when he first started launching 633 00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:24,850 the Space Station NASA made the promise 634 00:21:31,769 --> 00:21:28,630 to this planet that it would bring back 635 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:31,779 a controlled space station and put it in 636 00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:34,330 the Pacific Ocean because of the 637 00:21:39,330 --> 00:21:37,720 problems that we had with Skylab Skylab 638 00:21:41,639 --> 00:21:39,340 they thought was going to hit as you 639 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:41,649 remember the Pacific Ocean wound up 640 00:21:47,789 --> 00:21:45,610 hitting the Outlands of Australia with 641 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:47,799 the station three times larger than 642 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:50,710 Skylab you would lay a footprint across 643 00:21:56,370 --> 00:21:53,529 the whole United States almost with 644 00:21:58,830 --> 00:21:56,380 lethal debris if you had an uncontrolled 645 00:22:01,200 --> 00:21:58,840 space station come back that you could 646 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:01,210 not repair in orbit but let's suppose 647 00:22:06,899 --> 00:22:04,600 that we get through all the potential 648 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:06,909 hazards we never have to abandon the 649 00:22:10,250 --> 00:22:09,490 space station and 2020 rolls around and 650 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:10,260 you've got of 651 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:13,650 you've got to come up with a plan so a 652 00:22:18,620 --> 00:22:16,530 way I'm told you have three choices you 653 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:18,630 can continue the space station build a 654 00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:21,480 space city on it continued perpetually 655 00:22:27,950 --> 00:22:25,320 in orbit or you can return it home or 656 00:22:30,830 --> 00:22:27,960 you could destroy it to smithereens in 657 00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:30,840 orbit with all of these small pieces 658 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:35,550 coming back in but how can you without 659 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:38,130 the shuttle okay do you have enough 660 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:40,410 propulsion on board with this space 661 00:22:46,670 --> 00:22:43,380 station system itself or using smaller 662 00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:46,680 rockets and all to control the space 663 00:22:53,570 --> 00:22:49,460 station and bring it back safely without 664 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,580 being a threat to the population the 665 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:55,200 answer to that is yes and what we've 666 00:23:00,170 --> 00:22:57,770 done is we're required to protect 667 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:00,180 propellant on board to keep adequate 668 00:23:04,610 --> 00:23:02,880 attitude control for space station so in 669 00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:04,620 fact you'll see a start raising the 670 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:06,360 altitude of station and that's because 671 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:10,290 the solar of solar maximum is picking up 672 00:23:14,690 --> 00:23:12,510 and the drag is increasing on station so 673 00:23:16,670 --> 00:23:14,700 we have a requirement to be 180 days 674 00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:16,680 away from where we would drift down to 675 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:18,270 it to an altitude but we would have 676 00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:20,310 problems and then we need to keep enough 677 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:21,960 propellant on board that we can actually 678 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:24,570 reboost ourselves higher so we can have 679 00:23:29,690 --> 00:23:27,810 360 days before we drift down to this 680 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:29,700 altitude where it becomes tough to 681 00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:31,770 control the space station so we've got a 682 00:23:35,660 --> 00:23:33,390 basic plan that we're going to stay well 683 00:23:38,090 --> 00:23:35,670 above the altitude that we required to 684 00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:38,100 keep attitude control on space station 685 00:23:43,460 --> 00:23:41,160 we have multitude of redundancy in our 686 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:43,470 attitude control systems we can use the 687 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:45,210 progress vehicles to provide attitude 688 00:23:49,610 --> 00:23:47,490 control we can use the service module 689 00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:49,620 thrusters to provide add to control as 690 00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:51,750 you all know our control moment gyros 691 00:23:56,530 --> 00:23:53,790 can provide attitude control there's 692 00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:56,540 four of those we have four spares of 693 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,490 control moma gyros on orbit we can 694 00:24:03,020 --> 00:24:01,440 replace those we only need two of those 695 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:03,030 to maintain attitude control we can 696 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,710 probably maintain attitude control with 697 00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:06,720 just one of those so in a whole variety 698 00:24:10,340 --> 00:24:08,460 of scenarios we are going to keep 699 00:24:12,770 --> 00:24:10,350 attitude control and if we can keep 700 00:24:15,980 --> 00:24:12,780 attitude control it's it's relatively 701 00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:15,990 easy to target to put space station into 702 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:18,900 a deorbit path that would do it it into 703 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:20,730 the ocean and would not put any risk at 704 00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:22,050 all on the earth as long as we can 705 00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:23,100 maintain attitude 706 00:24:27,529 --> 00:24:25,260 troll so we have adequate ability to 707 00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:27,539 keep it from a system standpoint as you 708 00:24:31,610 --> 00:24:29,190 saw last summer when their ammonia pump 709 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:31,620 went down we have the ability to do EVs 710 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:33,750 out of the space station which we can do 711 00:24:38,450 --> 00:24:35,940 we can repair components we have the 712 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:38,460 spare parts on orbit to do those things 713 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:40,590 and we'll do that before we degrade down 714 00:24:45,490 --> 00:24:42,390 to where we would lose attitude control 715 00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:45,500 we also have a limited capability to do 716 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:48,539 EVs out of the saw use the saw use has 717 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:50,730 an orbital compartment you can use that 718 00:24:54,650 --> 00:24:52,410 orbital compartment to do some limited 719 00:24:56,779 --> 00:24:54,660 EVs so we do have even in a remote 720 00:25:00,380 --> 00:24:56,789 remote contingency situation ability to 721 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:00,390 do some EVs from from from the Soyuz 722 00:25:04,730 --> 00:25:02,610 then the last thing is our components 723 00:25:07,010 --> 00:25:04,740 our attitude control hardware on side 724 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:07,020 Space Station it's designed operated a 725 00:25:11,090 --> 00:25:09,570 vacuum so if we had some evacuation 726 00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:11,100 event that took all the pressure out of 727 00:25:14,810 --> 00:25:12,840 space station the electronics components 728 00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:14,820 that keep these attitude control systems 729 00:25:19,159 --> 00:25:16,860 are there and we would use those to 730 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:19,169 maintain attitude control so if we lose 731 00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:20,820 attitude control even if we had a 732 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:23,190 shuttle it's really tough to get a 733 00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:24,750 shuttle up there to dock with the solar 734 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,270 rays and the radiators and all that 735 00:25:32,270 --> 00:25:29,760 component to capture a tumbling station 736 00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:32,280 to come so our job whether we had a 737 00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,679 shuttle or not is to prevent that 738 00:25:38,510 --> 00:25:36,480 occurrence from happening and we need to 739 00:25:40,940 --> 00:25:38,520 make sure we keep attitude control and I 740 00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:40,950 believe you can't say it's it's 741 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:42,990 impossible but there's a tremendous 742 00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:44,970 amount of robustness that keeps us from 743 00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:46,440 losing attitude control which ultimately 744 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:48,750 provides us with the capability to do a 745 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:51,210 safety orbit of space station so the 746 00:25:55,789 --> 00:25:53,250 bottom line is unless you have a 747 00:25:58,730 --> 00:25:55,799 derelict something that you have no 748 00:26:02,120 --> 00:25:58,740 control over people killed on board or 749 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:02,130 abandoned that's the only threat that 750 00:26:06,409 --> 00:26:03,809 you a situation where you going to have 751 00:26:09,049 --> 00:26:06,419 a threat of this coming in uncontrolled 752 00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:09,059 and hitting the planet is that what 753 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:10,200 you're saying it would have to be a 754 00:26:15,169 --> 00:26:12,510 pretty unique set of multiple 755 00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:15,179 circumstances that that you know if you 756 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:16,500 if you got hit by some large piece of 757 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:18,330 debris and portions of the station were 758 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:19,919 evacuated we would still have attitude 759 00:26:24,380 --> 00:26:21,570 control we could still do those things 760 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:24,390 so there's probably a case I don't know 761 00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,370 how to string it together but I'm sure 762 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:28,559 if we SAT around long and if we could 763 00:26:32,210 --> 00:26:29,970 come up with a case but it's going to be 764 00:26:34,659 --> 00:26:32,220 multiple failures deep where we would be 765 00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:34,669 in this situation okay thank you so much 766 00:26:41,349 --> 00:26:39,710 Irene um thanks Irene Klotz with Reuters 767 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,359 I have a couple questions for you bill 768 00:26:47,619 --> 00:26:44,480 um do you have any identification of 769 00:26:51,609 --> 00:26:47,629 that orbital debris that caused the soya 770 00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:51,619 as shelter this morning no we don't know 771 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:53,840 what it we don't know what it's it 772 00:26:58,239 --> 00:26:55,850 doesn't have an idea just listen our 773 00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,249 table is unknown it's in a fairly highly 774 00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:00,799 elliptic orbit it's a inclined at about 775 00:27:06,609 --> 00:27:04,070 62 degrees inclination we did some post 776 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,619 paths tracking information where we 777 00:27:10,659 --> 00:27:08,480 tracked the object after it came past 778 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:10,669 station and then if we kind of backtrack 779 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:12,529 to how close it came to station we think 780 00:27:15,849 --> 00:27:14,090 it came within about three hundred and 781 00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:15,859 thirty five meters of space station 782 00:27:20,619 --> 00:27:18,470 based on kind of just the best estimate 783 00:27:23,109 --> 00:27:20,629 of our trajectory back calculating so it 784 00:27:25,149 --> 00:27:23,119 was probably the closest object to space 785 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:25,159 station that is actually come by space 786 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:26,989 station and we didn't have any 787 00:27:31,779 --> 00:27:29,330 information that it was coming until it 788 00:27:34,450 --> 00:27:31,789 was very very close and we didn't have 789 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:34,460 an option to do a maneuver we're working 790 00:27:39,070 --> 00:27:37,129 with our Russian partners to see if we 791 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:39,080 can shorten a timeline to do maneuvers 792 00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:40,970 you know today it takes us a couple days 793 00:27:45,369 --> 00:27:43,279 to actually get the maneuver timeline 794 00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:45,379 loaded in station and actually try to do 795 00:27:49,330 --> 00:27:47,840 a maneuver to avoid debris we're working 796 00:27:50,830 --> 00:27:49,340 with the Russians to make some software 797 00:27:52,419 --> 00:27:50,840 changes where we can do that in a much 798 00:27:54,249 --> 00:27:52,429 more expedient manner so if we get late 799 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:54,259 notification of an object will have the 800 00:27:57,940 --> 00:27:55,970 ability to move and so we're working on 801 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:57,950 improving that for the future did you 802 00:28:01,330 --> 00:27:58,970 say 803 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,340 we don't know the size of it and I don't 804 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:03,200 have the mass of it I've asked folks 805 00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:04,640 right now it's just listed in the 806 00:28:09,549 --> 00:28:06,409 catalog is unknown so then that means we 807 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:09,559 don't know exactly where it came from so 808 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:11,090 therefore it's tough to get the mass in 809 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:13,010 size but if we get it we'll get it to 810 00:28:17,289 --> 00:28:14,720 public affairs and they'll let you guys 811 00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:17,299 know thanks um and you touched on this 812 00:28:23,409 --> 00:28:19,630 in your comments earlier about the 813 00:28:26,289 --> 00:28:23,419 cruise soja seat liners so there's one 814 00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:26,299 that's going to be flying on 135 and the 815 00:28:29,770 --> 00:28:27,980 other three are just going to be in 816 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:29,780 storage in case they're needed yeah 817 00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,220 they're in storage and they could either 818 00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:33,200 be flown up on the progress vehicle 819 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:35,510 ahead of time in pre-positioned or they 820 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:37,370 could be launched on the Soyuz that 821 00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:38,570 would actually return those crew members 822 00:28:43,870 --> 00:28:41,840 and we would make that decision again as 823 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:43,880 we got into the situation on station it 824 00:28:47,529 --> 00:28:45,289 would it be more critical to fly 825 00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:47,539 supplies up on the progress or would be 826 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:49,280 more important to get the seat liners up 827 00:28:52,539 --> 00:28:50,450 so then if they had a medical problem 828 00:28:54,490 --> 00:28:52,549 that could come home on Soyuz we would 829 00:28:55,539 --> 00:28:54,500 make that decision if the event occurred 830 00:28:58,330 --> 00:28:55,549 but we've got a couple different options 831 00:29:01,480 --> 00:28:58,340 to get them on orbit thanks and probably 832 00:29:03,340 --> 00:29:01,490 for either you or for like Moses um do 833 00:29:05,289 --> 00:29:03,350 you have any other details about the 834 00:29:07,539 --> 00:29:05,299 particle that was found in the fuel 835 00:29:10,029 --> 00:29:07,549 valve the size or what you think it 836 00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:10,039 might have been I'll see the size was I 837 00:29:16,029 --> 00:29:14,270 think it was 88 microns by 14 microns it 838 00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:16,039 was aight thousands by 14,000 839 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:18,590 unbelievably small the picture they 840 00:29:21,490 --> 00:29:19,850 showed us was about the size of an eight 841 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:21,500 and a half eleven sheet of paper so it 842 00:29:26,649 --> 00:29:23,330 looked very menacing but it was a 843 00:29:28,990 --> 00:29:26,659 unbelievably tiny particle and it's not 844 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:29,000 uncommon to find debris in this fuel 845 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:31,929 valve and d'bries is a big stretch small 846 00:29:38,409 --> 00:29:34,610 contamination the way this sits that's 847 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:38,419 kind of the natural sump as as fluid 848 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:41,210 would circulate through so all of this 849 00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:43,490 stuff is well below the the 850 00:29:46,930 --> 00:29:45,020 contamination cleaning criteria so this 851 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:46,940 is stuff that's acceptable to the engine 852 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:48,890 the filters can handle it all that it 853 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:51,049 just happens to probably got itself on a 854 00:29:56,380 --> 00:29:53,090 sealing surface which generated the leak 855 00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:56,390 and they were they were very hesitant to 856 00:29:59,620 --> 00:29:58,159 say that that's the root cause we've 857 00:30:01,120 --> 00:29:59,630 seen this kind of stuff before that 858 00:30:03,610 --> 00:30:01,130 doesn't cause leaks we've seen this 859 00:30:06,580 --> 00:30:03,620 stuff before that does so it's it's not 860 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:06,590 conclusive proof but it is a good a good 861 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:08,510 idea that that's that's a likely cause 862 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:11,090 of that leak one of the main problems 863 00:30:15,610 --> 00:30:12,470 with this valve that we've had 864 00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,620 in the past in the long past was there 865 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:17,600 was a not a purge downstream and so as 866 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:19,190 the hydrogen gets liquid hydrogen gets 867 00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:20,809 on the upstream side of this valve the 868 00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:23,870 downstream side forms nitrogen ice it's 869 00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,070 cold enough that the nitrogen in the air 870 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,440 solidifies right out and forms on the 871 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:28,880 valve which lifts up the sealing surface 872 00:30:32,919 --> 00:30:31,010 and then causes a small hydrogen leak a 873 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:32,929 couple thing right that the temperatures 874 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:34,130 are very small and hydrogen is a very 875 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:36,110 small particle so it gets out very 876 00:30:40,570 --> 00:30:37,880 quickly you don't need a very big gap 877 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:40,580 before it leaks and so we've long ago 878 00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:42,409 implemented this helium purge to kind of 879 00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:44,030 keep that out and that's taken care of 880 00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:46,100 the problem you can't ever tell if you 881 00:30:49,330 --> 00:30:47,630 had nitrogen ice because by the time the 882 00:30:51,159 --> 00:30:49,340 valve cools down enough or i should say 883 00:30:52,510 --> 00:30:51,169 warms up enough to be able to go out and 884 00:30:55,539 --> 00:30:52,520 take a look at it the ice is melted and 885 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:55,549 it's gone so we weren't surprised that 886 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:56,960 we didn't find a smoking gun we were 887 00:31:00,940 --> 00:30:58,970 kind of feeling a little good we found 888 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:00,950 this little piece of particle but the 889 00:31:05,710 --> 00:31:02,570 bottom line is the new valve should be 890 00:31:07,330 --> 00:31:05,720 just fine and the true bottom line is if 891 00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:07,340 it happens to leak again we have all the 892 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:09,110 right protocols and procedures in place 893 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:11,510 to keep us in a safe configuration out 894 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:13,250 at the launch pad it would result in 895 00:31:16,299 --> 00:31:15,110 another scrub but but that would be what 896 00:31:18,220 --> 00:31:16,309 the right thing to do that day if this 897 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:18,230 leak does come back again but we don't 898 00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:20,210 have any any reason to suspect that we 899 00:31:25,899 --> 00:31:21,200 didn't get rid of the problem by 900 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:25,909 changing out the valve todd halvorson of 901 00:31:34,090 --> 00:31:29,570 florida today for I guess curse maybe 902 00:31:36,010 --> 00:31:34,100 Mike Moses I've been thinking about the 903 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:36,020 number of EPA's you guys have been doing 904 00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:39,770 annually for 10 or 11 years now and it 905 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:43,640 probably ranges about 15 or 20 if I'm if 906 00:31:50,919 --> 00:31:46,970 I'm not mistaken and i was wondering now 907 00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:50,929 that is some way is done how many EBA is 908 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:55,070 a year do you anticipate having to do to 909 00:32:00,279 --> 00:31:57,890 maintain the space station and I'ma 910 00:32:02,860 --> 00:32:00,289 follow I think we're looking about one 911 00:32:03,790 --> 00:32:02,870 evaa year is roughly will we predict 912 00:32:07,290 --> 00:32:03,800 them 913 00:32:09,820 --> 00:32:07,300 and again they'll be predominantly for 914 00:32:11,710 --> 00:32:09,830 for maintenance kind of activities there 915 00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:11,720 may be a little bit of payload activity 916 00:32:15,490 --> 00:32:13,340 associated with that what we'll do is 917 00:32:17,710 --> 00:32:15,500 we'll wait until enough things back up 918 00:32:19,510 --> 00:32:17,720 in that in the job jar that we're ready 919 00:32:20,620 --> 00:32:19,520 to go do an EV a you can kind of see 920 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:20,630 what the Russians are doing with their 921 00:32:24,370 --> 00:32:22,190 EV aids are going to do an EV a this 922 00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:24,380 summer they're doing about 1 to 2 EV as 923 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:26,120 a year so I think we'll be in about that 924 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:28,490 same range probably one EV a or so a 925 00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:31,310 year once once we get once once it well 926 00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:32,540 once we're done we're really done with 927 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,040 assembly so now we're done with assembly 928 00:32:38,650 --> 00:32:36,320 now we're in more just maintenance right 929 00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:38,660 so that would be a total of about three 930 00:32:44,890 --> 00:32:42,620 or four to us to Russian yeah probably i 931 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:44,900 would say three probably two russian and 932 00:32:48,730 --> 00:32:46,970 one US and the other thing that you're 933 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:48,740 going to start seeing us do into is 934 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:50,690 grass started using dexter for more 935 00:32:56,050 --> 00:32:52,910 activities you know we had planned about 936 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:56,060 a year ago to do a remote power control 937 00:32:59,680 --> 00:32:57,890 module change out with dexter remember 938 00:33:01,030 --> 00:32:59,690 and we tried to pull and the forces were 939 00:33:03,250 --> 00:33:01,040 larger than we thought so we had to 940 00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:03,260 reprogram dexter to use both arms 941 00:33:07,060 --> 00:33:05,720 instead of just one to pull because was 942 00:33:10,150 --> 00:33:07,070 just pulling on one there was too much 943 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:10,160 bounce when the when the device came 944 00:33:14,770 --> 00:33:12,410 unstuck so we're going to go do that 945 00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:14,780 again probably this fall you also see us 946 00:33:18,190 --> 00:33:16,760 doing all these refueling tasks that was 947 00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:18,200 that Mike talked about a little bit 948 00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:20,390 earlier that's going to really bring out 949 00:33:26,260 --> 00:33:23,950 dexter is being able to do some pretty 950 00:33:28,450 --> 00:33:26,270 some pretty interesting tasks that 951 00:33:29,710 --> 00:33:28,460 before would have only been done with EV 952 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:29,720 a so you're going to see you start 953 00:33:34,330 --> 00:33:32,450 moving up now on the robotic side to do 954 00:33:35,950 --> 00:33:34,340 much more robotic kind of things because 955 00:33:37,810 --> 00:33:35,960 a lot of our orbital replacement units 956 00:33:40,330 --> 00:33:37,820 are meant to be replaced with robotics 957 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:40,340 so even back to Jay's comment there's 958 00:33:44,020 --> 00:33:42,290 some components out there on the station 959 00:33:47,020 --> 00:33:44,030 that you would have said today we're 960 00:33:48,490 --> 00:33:47,030 only EV a interchangeable or fixable I 961 00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:48,500 will tell you in the future we start 962 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:49,790 using Dexter you're going to start 963 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:52,040 seeing us doing a lot of robot robotic 964 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:53,570 maintenance on the outside with Dexter 965 00:33:56,770 --> 00:33:55,250 to keep up components so that's kind of 966 00:33:58,450 --> 00:33:56,780 the next phase so we went through the EV 967 00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,460 a phase now we're going to push the 968 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:00,320 robots to see how far we can get with 969 00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:01,550 maintenance with robots and that's 970 00:34:08,169 --> 00:34:04,760 coming on-station it's really 971 00:34:11,740 --> 00:34:08,179 interesting I'm thinking you guys have 972 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:11,750 done what 159 or 100 hundred and sixty 973 00:34:16,820 --> 00:34:14,370 ebas now too 974 00:34:19,790 --> 00:34:16,830 assemble the space station and it seems 975 00:34:23,780 --> 00:34:19,800 to me that there have not been a whole 976 00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:23,790 lot of you know big deal kind of events 977 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:26,040 or incidents that have happened if you 978 00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:30,450 look back at the assembly period what 979 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:32,040 would you say were the the most 980 00:34:39,130 --> 00:34:35,310 significant you know events i can 981 00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:39,140 remember an ammonia leak on the destiny 982 00:34:44,630 --> 00:34:42,720 install mission and then stuff with the 983 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:44,640 gloves i mean what would you say whereas 984 00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:46,050 the most significant things you've 985 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:49,620 encountered well that's tough you know 986 00:34:53,540 --> 00:34:51,510 when you're sitting in Mission Control 987 00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:53,550 and you're running your flight plan any 988 00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:55,110 little thing seems like it's a big deal 989 00:34:59,210 --> 00:34:56,430 to you but when you step back at the end 990 00:35:00,590 --> 00:34:59,220 of the mission you look at the recap you 991 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:00,600 know I don't know that there's very much 992 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:02,730 on that list even those those ammonia 993 00:35:07,610 --> 00:35:05,610 couplers that had problems that was not 994 00:35:11,330 --> 00:35:07,620 an unanticipated thing we had the backup 995 00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:11,340 plans we needed we had a few areas that 996 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:13,140 have gotten nicknames like the rat's 997 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:15,210 nest and and stuff where there's a lot 998 00:35:18,620 --> 00:35:16,530 of connections and a lot of access 999 00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:18,630 difficulties and again they were they 1000 00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:20,880 were known to be challenged points and I 1001 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:23,280 think what you take away from it is not 1002 00:35:27,590 --> 00:35:25,170 so much the the things that went wrong 1003 00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:27,600 but all the work that went in to make 1004 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,580 sure that they didn't go wrong I think 1005 00:35:34,070 --> 00:35:31,680 number of opportunities to have an issue 1006 00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:34,080 with an e VA in a station assembly was 1007 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:36,540 was a very big number and the team did 1008 00:35:39,830 --> 00:35:38,850 an amazing job of making sure we never 1009 00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:39,840 found ourselves in one of those 1010 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,030 situations so I can think of more 1011 00:35:45,860 --> 00:35:44,400 examples where we avoided a problem than 1012 00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:45,870 we actually had problems and that's a 1013 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:47,790 that's a testament to the to the EV a 1014 00:35:51,830 --> 00:35:50,130 team and the station team to come up 1015 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:51,840 with a very good system that that's got 1016 00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:55,050 a lot of robustness to it I will take 1017 00:35:58,250 --> 00:35:56,880 questions from two more reporters here 1018 00:36:02,830 --> 00:35:58,260 then we'll head off to Johnson Space 1019 00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:05,420 if I might line back this is obviously 1020 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:07,470 the last time you going through the frr 1021 00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:10,290 process for a shuttle mission and many 1022 00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:11,910 of the workers working towards this last 1023 00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:13,710 mission know that they're going to be 1024 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:15,420 out of work and losing their jobs once 1025 00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:17,010 that the orbiters back down on the 1026 00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:18,780 ground again how does everybody here 1027 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:21,030 separate that emotion that knowledge in 1028 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,410 their minds from the need to do a 1029 00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,240 thorough and professional job preparing 1030 00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:26,400 for this last mission and can you also 1031 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:27,870 tell me a little bit more about the 1032 00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:30,450 general mood and atmosphere around KSC 1033 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:33,270 is the program Weinstein please yeah I 1034 00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:34,800 think you use the right word use the 1035 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:37,020 word professional and describing the 1036 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:38,730 team and that's not just the launch team 1037 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:40,470 as the processing team it's the ground 1038 00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:42,930 support team everyone that touches the 1039 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:44,190 vehicle or the ground support equipment 1040 00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:46,290 as a true professional here at the 1041 00:36:50,540 --> 00:36:47,760 Kennedy Space Center and indeed 1042 00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:50,550 throughout the program and so with that 1043 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:52,590 professionalism and their dedication to 1044 00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:54,570 the program over many many years comes 1045 00:36:58,940 --> 00:36:56,310 that becomes a commitment an internal 1046 00:37:00,500 --> 00:36:58,950 commitment to do the job right and as I 1047 00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:00,510 said before when when the folks are 1048 00:37:05,180 --> 00:37:03,030 doing their work on this amazing machine 1049 00:37:07,790 --> 00:37:05,190 I don't worry about it i know they're 1050 00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:07,800 going to do their job as perfectly as 1051 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:10,860 they have in the past yes they know the 1052 00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:12,570 end is coming of course and we've known 1053 00:37:16,940 --> 00:37:15,300 for quite some time contractors have 1054 00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:16,950 done a great job in preparing the 1055 00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:19,350 workforce for other opportunities out 1056 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,900 there but nevertheless you know the end 1057 00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:23,520 of a program something that a lot of 1058 00:37:28,610 --> 00:37:24,990 these folks have been with for 30 years 1059 00:37:30,140 --> 00:37:28,620 is a it's difficult and the mood is 1060 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:30,150 getting more and more somber as you walk 1061 00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:31,890 down the hall when you're not on the job 1062 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,870 site you're walking down the hall 1063 00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:35,520 talking to folks you know the end is is 1064 00:37:39,350 --> 00:37:37,260 just weeks away now where it used to be 1065 00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:39,360 years away so it's it's turning more 1066 00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:41,550 somber and but you know we're looking 1067 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:43,350 forward to the future too and what the 1068 00:37:46,580 --> 00:37:45,090 what NASA has planned in the future and 1069 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:46,590 hopefully that'll be exciting for the 1070 00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:50,130 county Space Center to last question 1071 00:37:55,850 --> 00:37:52,200 here before we go to JSC from Craig 1072 00:37:59,240 --> 00:37:55,860 cobalt thanks very much Craig covault 1073 00:38:02,080 --> 00:37:59,250 with aerospace America and pitching it 1074 00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:02,090 toward the future here what kind of a 1075 00:38:09,850 --> 00:38:06,420 intensive inventory exercises underway 1076 00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:09,860 from a component part of you the the 1077 00:38:17,110 --> 00:38:12,510 kind of hardware that you can shift over 1078 00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:17,120 to the SLS the Space Launch System let's 1079 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:21,000 at least in a conceptual vein now and 1080 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:23,130 I'm particularly interested in SS Emmys 1081 00:38:30,530 --> 00:38:29,250 and srms sun sea from a we've had known 1082 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:30,540 about that for a while even long before 1083 00:38:34,670 --> 00:38:32,370 SLS got to find we've kind of had that 1084 00:38:36,590 --> 00:38:34,680 that lean against our hardware to say 1085 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:36,600 you know what does the follow-on program 1086 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:37,710 need 1087 00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:40,770 you know we decided the SS mes we're an 1088 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:44,430 asset that were likely needs a program 1089 00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,770 with bills help went out on a limb a 1090 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:48,240 little bit to say let's go ahead and 1091 00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:50,490 protect them in in storage a little 1092 00:38:55,099 --> 00:38:52,920 longer and then and then we come up with 1093 00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:55,109 a system that might need to use them it 1094 00:39:00,320 --> 00:38:56,250 looks like we might be headed that way 1095 00:39:03,770 --> 00:39:00,330 so those assets are available the all 1096 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:03,780 the SRB hardware is being stored in in 1097 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:07,410 not flight condition storage but in in a 1098 00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:09,810 in a reasonable enough shape that it's 1099 00:39:15,260 --> 00:39:12,510 it's reusable and restorable if needed 1100 00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:15,270 and then there's the detailed specifics 1101 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:17,700 of plumbing components valve components 1102 00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:19,290 that you really need to get a little 1103 00:39:22,849 --> 00:39:21,359 more maturity on the design of the next 1104 00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:22,859 vehicle before you know exactly what you 1105 00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:24,780 may or may not want to take from this 1106 00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:27,359 programs hardware and so we have all the 1107 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:29,220 mechanisms in place to go identify that 1108 00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:31,290 hardware and then be able to take it out 1109 00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:33,540 and keep it in a you know flight spares 1110 00:39:37,550 --> 00:39:35,640 condition if needed but but that's still 1111 00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,560 an ongoing process it's it's basically 1112 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:39,599 underway right now at the Marshall Space 1113 00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:41,010 Flight Center to identify what hardware 1114 00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:43,380 may or may not be needed and it's open 1115 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:45,720 work pending on on all three vehicles as 1116 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:48,089 we retire them down here at at Kennedy 1117 00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:49,410 to decide what needs to come out and be 1118 00:39:53,630 --> 00:39:52,380 saved and I just might add a little bit 1119 00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:53,640 to that too from it from a ground 1120 00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:55,140 processing perspective we're going 1121 00:39:58,940 --> 00:39:57,240 through a sense of that same process you 1122 00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:58,950 know we're identifying ground support 1123 00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:00,780 equipment that may be applicable to some 1124 00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:03,119 future program or if it's truly shuttle 1125 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:05,040 unique and probably will never be used 1126 00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:06,089 by another program well that's a 1127 00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:08,670 different story but but things like an 1128 00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,320 ammonia servicing cart well most most 1129 00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:12,000 space vehicles have ammonia on board and 1130 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:14,070 so things like that we're taking special 1131 00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:16,410 care not to not to throw away we're 1132 00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:18,420 inventory at all we're going to keep it 1133 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:20,760 in good shape for the future hopefully 1134 00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:22,410 another customer will want those those 1135 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:24,060 types of ground support equipment items 1136 00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,730 as well we have a transition control 1137 00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:28,560 board where we kind of look at each 1138 00:40:32,510 --> 00:40:30,780 individual component each individual 1139 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:32,520 facility and then we try to make our 1140 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:34,410 best judgment about just something we 1141 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:36,030 might be able to use is this something 1142 00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:37,290 that we're not going to use those are 1143 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:38,790 two the two broad categories and then 1144 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,800 there's this kind of in gray zone and 1145 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:43,200 then we try to figure out where we think 1146 00:40:47,210 --> 00:40:44,820 our highest probability is to keep stuff 1147 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:47,220 around and we also look at how easy it 1148 00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:49,050 would be to replace if once we let it go 1149 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:50,940 that's another consideration we actually 1150 00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:52,770 right a pretty thorough document where 1151 00:40:56,089 --> 00:40:54,270 we analyze each one of these components 1152 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:56,099 to see what its value is to the Future 1153 00:40:59,839 --> 00:40:58,170 program its ability to be replaced and 1154 00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:59,849 the criticality and then we make a 1155 00:41:02,809 --> 00:41:01,140 decision about whether we want to keep 1156 00:41:04,460 --> 00:41:02,819 it around for an extended duration or 1157 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:04,470 not so it's a it's a pretty thorough 1158 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:06,930 process we've gone through it for a lot 1159 00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:08,490 of the major components up to this point 1160 00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:10,230 we'll continue to do that through the 1161 00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:14,160 remainder this year okay well let's take 1162 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:16,109 questions now from Houston the Johnson 1163 00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:20,250 Space Center go ahead please yeah thanks 1164 00:41:26,809 --> 00:41:22,500 mark kuro for aviation week I think this 1165 00:41:29,569 --> 00:41:26,819 is for Mike Leinbach up once the launch 1166 00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:29,579 period opens on july eight how many days 1167 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:33,150 can you go before you have to resurface 1168 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:35,609 the PRS d in order to preserve the 1169 00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:37,650 12-day mission is it is it can you go 1170 00:41:42,980 --> 00:41:39,630 through the 10th is that way you we 1171 00:41:44,809 --> 00:41:42,990 implied earlier or is that too long yeah 1172 00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,819 no that's that's exactly right Craig we 1173 00:41:49,940 --> 00:41:47,040 can go all the way through the 10th with 1174 00:41:52,099 --> 00:41:49,950 no problems at all and again if we're 1175 00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:52,109 still on the ground after the tenth you 1176 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:54,000 know I suspect the shuttle program along 1177 00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:55,290 with the Delta program will talk about 1178 00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:56,940 other opportunities but right now we're 1179 00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,890 we're saying we have 8th 9th and 10th 1180 00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:00,480 launch and we would not have to top off 1181 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:07,849 hi this is Robert Pearlman with 1182 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:09,690 collectspace.com with a question I think 1183 00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:12,810 for Mike Moses I believe the current 1184 00:42:16,819 --> 00:42:14,940 projections are that if it lands lands 1185 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:16,829 on any other day but July twentieth 1186 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:19,890 it'll be a night landing is that correct 1187 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:22,890 and would there be any consideration by 1188 00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:24,510 the program because this is the last 1189 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:26,609 landing to do some type of other orbital 1190 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:28,260 maneuver to bring back landing to the 1191 00:42:34,339 --> 00:42:31,170 day so that the last landing can be seen 1192 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:34,349 in full daylight Thanks yeah Robert no 1193 00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:36,450 no specific accommodations being made 1194 00:42:40,130 --> 00:42:38,609 just for that reason but yeah the 1195 00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:40,140 landing time would back up a little bit 1196 00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:42,270 there's a whole list of constraints that 1197 00:42:49,069 --> 00:42:45,150 go into deorbit burn planning cross 1198 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:49,079 range capability attitude lighting 1199 00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:50,730 conditions are one of them you want to 1200 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,700 avoid the direct glare of sunrise or 1201 00:42:58,220 --> 00:42:55,920 sunset so we go through that whole list 1202 00:43:00,800 --> 00:42:58,230 and that would drive what the right the 1203 00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:00,810 right burn or over to adjustment to get 1204 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:02,940 the burn where it needs to be but no 1205 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:04,770 nothing on that list says 1206 00:43:12,170 --> 00:43:05,970 try to make it a daylight landing just 1207 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:12,180 because it's the last one unison Sarah 1208 00:43:17,390 --> 00:43:14,610 ABC News 4 bill bill would you take me 1209 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:17,400 to what happens when you get notice of a 1210 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:19,890 conjunction the process who gets the 1211 00:43:24,610 --> 00:43:22,050 phone call at midnight and what steps 1212 00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:24,620 you take and how you analyze it 1213 00:43:30,020 --> 00:43:26,910 typically what happens is the flight 1214 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:30,030 dynamic officer I think it's the it's 1215 00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:31,410 got a different name in the station 1216 00:43:34,730 --> 00:43:32,940 world but it's essentially the person 1217 00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:34,740 that keeps track of the orbital 1218 00:43:38,060 --> 00:43:36,390 mechanics of the station and does 1219 00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:38,070 reboost planning those kind of things 1220 00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:40,200 they'd get a notification they would 1221 00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:41,940 immediately inform the flight director 1222 00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:43,920 the flight director would then have 1223 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:45,150 discussions with the Russian 1224 00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:46,890 counterparts about what needs to be done 1225 00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:49,020 yeah I says program would be brought 1226 00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:50,670 into the same discussion to make sure 1227 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:52,140 that programmatically they're aware of 1228 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:55,650 what's occurring management is needed to 1229 00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:57,810 make a decision the ISS mission 1230 00:44:01,700 --> 00:43:59,460 management team would make that decision 1231 00:44:05,090 --> 00:44:01,710 on what what the planning is for the 1232 00:44:06,890 --> 00:44:05,100 burn that me needs to be done so if we 1233 00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:06,900 know in advance will start this process 1234 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:08,520 and we'll kind of do the preliminary 1235 00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:10,770 paperwork will exchange the burn 1236 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,510 information with the Russians to get 1237 00:44:15,830 --> 00:44:14,160 ready for that activity but then when we 1238 00:44:17,660 --> 00:44:15,840 get like an immediate notification of 1239 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:17,670 this one I think we had 14 hours notice 1240 00:44:23,090 --> 00:44:20,730 before the event in that case the flight 1241 00:44:25,580 --> 00:44:23,100 director was immediately contacted the 1242 00:44:27,260 --> 00:44:25,590 flight director then informed the ISS 1243 00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:27,270 program management team they informed 1244 00:44:31,580 --> 00:44:30,060 broader management and then we worked 1245 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:31,590 out with the crew and the flight rules 1246 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:33,210 are pretty specific about what we do for 1247 00:44:37,070 --> 00:44:35,090 these cases and it was essentially to 1248 00:44:38,780 --> 00:44:37,080 shelter in place to get into the 1249 00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:38,790 respective so uses and actually close 1250 00:44:43,340 --> 00:44:40,760 the hatches and prepare in case 1251 00:44:45,470 --> 00:44:43,350 something occurred and and so that's the 1252 00:44:47,090 --> 00:44:45,480 basic process that we go through and on 1253 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:47,100 the station said that's the topo the 1254 00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:48,690 trajectory operations planning officer 1255 00:44:54,110 --> 00:44:52,020 yeah that's all the questions from JSC 1256 00:44:58,010 --> 00:44:54,120 so let's go to the phone line and see if 1257 00:45:01,120 --> 00:44:58,020 Denise Chow has any questions hi Denise 1258 00:45:04,340 --> 00:45:01,130 Chow face calm question for Mike Moses 1259 00:45:06,110 --> 00:45:04,350 mentioned that for adding an extra day 1260 00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:06,120 you'll wait until either the second or 1261 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:08,520 third day of docked operations about the 1262 00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:09,690 latest time that you can make that 1263 00:45:13,820 --> 00:45:11,190 decision or can you sort of do a 1264 00:45:15,230 --> 00:45:13,830 wait-and-see longer than that and hold 1265 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:15,240 off on making that decision of adding an 1266 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:17,970 extra day yeah conceivably we certainly 1267 00:45:20,730 --> 00:45:19,210 could wait 1268 00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:20,740 and we would we would do so if we were 1269 00:45:26,339 --> 00:45:23,310 kind of marginal on the support numbers 1270 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:26,349 talking to the the mission operations 1271 00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:29,290 team and the planning folks the day that 1272 00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:31,540 they think they dad is around the flight 1273 00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:33,460 day 89 timeframe was where you kind of 1274 00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:35,140 insert that extra day so the crew would 1275 00:45:38,730 --> 00:45:36,609 be running the normal plan up until that 1276 00:45:40,589 --> 00:45:38,740 time you'd like to give them a little 1277 00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:40,599 notice so they have time to replan and 1278 00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:42,460 reschedule but but yeah we can certainly 1279 00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:44,470 wait a little longer probably flight day 1280 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:47,470 five or six till we till we need to make 1281 00:45:59,849 --> 00:45:52,960 any decisions Denise any other questions 1282 00:46:03,839 --> 00:45:59,859 oh ok I think that was it so we're back 1283 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:03,849 here at Kennedy and Jay barberry bill we 1284 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:05,250 got the announcement on the 1285 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:07,930 multi-purpose crew vehicle everything 1286 00:46:12,750 --> 00:46:10,570 here not too long ago is any hope of 1287 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:12,760 getting an announcement anytime soon on 1288 00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:15,849 heavy lift we're working through all the 1289 00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:18,609 trades and all the analysis that goes 1290 00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:21,369 along with that and I don't know we'll 1291 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:23,230 see we're working as fast as we can to 1292 00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:24,970 get some kind of announcement out as 1293 00:46:32,849 --> 00:46:30,849 soon as we can for the launch marcia 1294 00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:32,859 marcia dunn Associated Press two quick 1295 00:46:37,170 --> 00:46:34,960 questions for bill did I hear you say 1296 00:46:38,970 --> 00:46:37,180 earlier that this piece of debris that 1297 00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:38,980 went by the space station this morning 1298 00:46:43,260 --> 00:46:41,320 was the closest a piece of junk has ever 1299 00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:43,270 come to the space station yeah that's 1300 00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:46,240 whatever and everything's looking great 1301 00:46:52,170 --> 00:46:48,910 for the eighth but if the launch slips 1302 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:52,180 significantly is there a line in the 1303 00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:56,530 sand or any kind of date where you just 1304 00:47:01,970 --> 00:46:58,690 can afford to keep the shuttle sitting 1305 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:01,980 on the pad since it is the last one 1306 00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:05,650 again I think we have sufficient funding 1307 00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:07,839 to keep trying for another period of 1308 00:47:10,770 --> 00:47:09,310 time we need to keep working with the 1309 00:47:12,810 --> 00:47:10,780 teams and make sure we're really ready 1310 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:12,820 to go do this mission is I described 1311 00:47:17,609 --> 00:47:15,010 earlier this mission is really really 1312 00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:17,619 critical to an ISS standpoint so we want 1313 00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:19,300 to do this mission but we got to make 1314 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:20,830 sure that in our zeal to get this 1315 00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:22,570 mission done we don't cross some safety 1316 00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:23,710 line where we don't have adequate 1317 00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:25,660 support to go staff the mission or 1318 00:47:29,579 --> 00:47:27,310 something's occurred from a team 1319 00:47:31,099 --> 00:47:29,589 standpoint that is not right you know 1320 00:47:33,499 --> 00:47:31,109 we'll do the right thing overall 1321 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:33,509 but but we you know we have funds to go 1322 00:47:37,849 --> 00:47:36,329 ahead and continue for a while if we 1323 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:37,859 have to keep slipping and our intent 1324 00:47:41,059 --> 00:47:39,450 would be to fly this mission as long as 1325 00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:41,069 we're ready to go fly this mission in a 1326 00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:42,329 safe manner and will continue to 1327 00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:47,099 evaluate that as we go forward how would 1328 00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:50,180 you define for a while a couple months 1329 00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:53,369 yep let's take it in and then you know 1330 00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,660 how we work things right I'll tell you a 1331 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:55,920 couple months now and then I'll figure 1332 00:48:00,440 --> 00:47:57,690 out some magical plan and will extend 1333 00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,450 that a couple more months so so so the 1334 00:48:05,269 --> 00:48:02,160 immediate NASA to answer is a couple 1335 00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:05,279 months okay I taught and then we'll take 1336 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:07,049 a question from Richard okay todd 1337 00:48:13,069 --> 00:48:09,450 halvorson of florida today for anybody 1338 00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:13,079 who would like to fill this one a lot of 1339 00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:15,390 people are going to be looking back at 1340 00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:18,630 30 years of shuttle operations and and 1341 00:48:24,739 --> 00:48:22,200 the money spent over time to have 1342 00:48:25,970 --> 00:48:24,749 ventures in low-earth orbit and i'm 1343 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:25,980 thinking that some people out there 1344 00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:29,970 going to question whether the shuttle 1345 00:48:35,059 --> 00:48:32,789 program was worth the expense and i'm 1346 00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,069 wondering if you got that question from 1347 00:48:46,130 --> 00:48:37,920 somebody on the street what would your 1348 00:48:49,849 --> 00:48:46,140 answer be and why it's curse tomorrow's 1349 00:48:51,739 --> 00:48:49,859 money okay why I'll start a nice guys 1350 00:48:54,339 --> 00:48:51,749 can help right I would say it's 1351 00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:54,349 definitely worth our money i mean if if 1352 00:49:00,529 --> 00:48:57,569 i look at what we've accomplished you 1353 00:49:02,479 --> 00:49:00,539 know when we started this program as you 1354 00:49:04,220 --> 00:49:02,489 described earlier right we could barely 1355 00:49:05,660 --> 00:49:04,230 do space walks right and then look how 1356 00:49:06,829 --> 00:49:05,670 many spacewalks we were able to do 1357 00:49:08,779 --> 00:49:06,839 throughout the history of the shuttle 1358 00:49:11,089 --> 00:49:08,789 program not only for is assembly but in 1359 00:49:13,579 --> 00:49:11,099 general you know we've gone from where 1360 00:49:16,430 --> 00:49:13,589 we we went to space and we touch space 1361 00:49:18,049 --> 00:49:16,440 and we came back we now are really in a 1362 00:49:20,180 --> 00:49:18,059 posture where we're learning to live in 1363 00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:20,190 space and operate in space which i think 1364 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:23,400 is a tremendous challenge to us as a 1365 00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:25,650 species and also helps us and drives us 1366 00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:27,480 from a technology standpoint I would 1367 00:49:31,309 --> 00:49:28,910 also say if you look at how 1368 00:49:33,229 --> 00:49:31,319 computational fluid dynamics has changed 1369 00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:33,239 you know what we can do today in terms 1370 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:36,420 of debris loss is lightyears different 1371 00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:37,890 than what we could do before and that 1372 00:49:42,739 --> 00:49:40,559 same computational fluid dynamics helps 1373 00:49:44,690 --> 00:49:42,749 us design better aircraft engines helps 1374 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:44,700 us design better wings for aircraft 1375 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:47,250 it pays real benefits to real folks here 1376 00:49:51,410 --> 00:49:49,770 on the earth we understand combustion 1377 00:49:53,930 --> 00:49:51,420 properties much better than we've done 1378 00:49:57,290 --> 00:49:53,940 before I mean that has real benefits so 1379 00:49:59,359 --> 00:49:57,300 the technology advance of taking a step 1380 00:50:01,579 --> 00:49:59,369 or pushing beyond what you think is 1381 00:50:03,170 --> 00:50:01,589 reasonable and going for that that high 1382 00:50:05,180 --> 00:50:03,180 bar and saying that high standard for 1383 00:50:07,339 --> 00:50:05,190 yourself drives better performance for 1384 00:50:09,230 --> 00:50:07,349 the team I can also tell you that there 1385 00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:09,240 is no better workforce than this 1386 00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:10,920 workforce down here at Kennedy and 1387 00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:12,510 Houston and throughout the world to 1388 00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:14,430 support space these folks are 1389 00:50:21,050 --> 00:50:17,280 tremendously dedicated their ability to 1390 00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:21,060 plan and to schedule is is phenomenal 1391 00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:24,839 you know they have a valve failure and 1392 00:50:28,970 --> 00:50:27,119 they immediately have got plans in there 1393 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:28,980 hi crews out there figuring out how to 1394 00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,530 get scaffolding out there the the engine 1395 00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:33,359 guys come tell me it's as good as 1396 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:35,369 changing it out in the engine shop they 1397 00:50:39,020 --> 00:50:37,050 put the platforms in place so they could 1398 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:39,030 get there there wasn't a whole lot of 1399 00:50:43,220 --> 00:50:41,730 fuss and muss they know what their job 1400 00:50:44,839 --> 00:50:43,230 is they know how to go do things they 1401 00:50:47,569 --> 00:50:44,849 know how to plan they know how to react 1402 00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,579 and that's invaluable in any industry or 1403 00:50:51,620 --> 00:50:49,440 any skill so these skills that people 1404 00:50:53,540 --> 00:50:51,630 have individually learned that fit on 1405 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:53,550 their resumes today are invaluable for 1406 00:50:57,260 --> 00:50:55,890 the future so I you know I'm clearly 1407 00:50:59,450 --> 00:50:57,270 biased because I've been doing this my 1408 00:51:01,339 --> 00:50:59,460 whole life but I will tell you that I 1409 00:51:03,140 --> 00:51:01,349 think this has really pushed our country 1410 00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:03,150 well we have done a tremendous service 1411 00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:05,310 for our country and advancing technology 1412 00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:07,710 and scientific research and the program 1413 00:51:12,290 --> 00:51:09,569 was clearly worth everything we spent on 1414 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:12,300 it to this point yeah I'd agree right 1415 00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:14,490 the technical tangible things you know 1416 00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:16,740 one of the things that the the Kennedy 1417 00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,660 engineering team kind of used as a 1418 00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:20,880 lesson learned the other day is as we've 1419 00:51:24,109 --> 00:51:22,380 gone through all this problems we've had 1420 00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:24,119 with orbiter wiring and how it ages over 1421 00:51:27,170 --> 00:51:25,140 the years and the fact that you can't 1422 00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:27,180 get out all of it they developed a 1423 00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,640 technique that basically kind of does 1424 00:51:33,710 --> 00:51:31,680 remote scanning you send a high current 1425 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:33,720 signal down that wire and it can come 1426 00:51:36,290 --> 00:51:35,010 back and tell you if you're bleeding out 1427 00:51:38,450 --> 00:51:36,300 current because you have an insulation 1428 00:51:40,339 --> 00:51:38,460 break somewhere that's now technology 1429 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:40,349 that's out there in industry being used 1430 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:43,650 around the world to help reduce reduce 1431 00:51:47,329 --> 00:51:45,210 the manpower required to track down 1432 00:51:50,569 --> 00:51:47,339 wiring problems so there's all those 1433 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:50,579 tangible direct benefits I'll step back 1434 00:51:55,250 --> 00:51:52,530 and say it's the intangible stuff that 1435 00:51:57,470 --> 00:51:55,260 always inspired me the fact that it's a 1436 00:51:58,460 --> 00:51:57,480 noble purpose to go do this kind of 1437 00:52:01,400 --> 00:51:58,470 thing in 1438 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:01,410 in space that is just an inspiration I 1439 00:52:05,089 --> 00:52:03,210 mean to think about the stuff we're 1440 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:05,099 doing robotically and somewhere there's 1441 00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,170 some kid watching dexter out there 1442 00:52:10,910 --> 00:52:08,880 remotely manipulating things and comes 1443 00:52:12,980 --> 00:52:10,920 up with some idea of how we can do that 1444 00:52:14,750 --> 00:52:12,990 differently it drives all the the 1445 00:52:17,060 --> 00:52:14,760 surgical robotics that we do here on the 1446 00:52:19,849 --> 00:52:17,070 ground all that one doesn't cause the 1447 00:52:21,470 --> 00:52:19,859 other but as a collective it shows what 1448 00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:21,480 the advancement of science and 1449 00:52:25,460 --> 00:52:23,040 technology really does for our species 1450 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:25,470 as a as a benefit if you think about 1451 00:52:29,810 --> 00:52:27,330 what we have available to us 1452 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:29,820 technologically today as opposed to what 1453 00:52:34,730 --> 00:52:31,920 you know the generation before us had 1454 00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,740 it's it's pretty remarkable to me that 1455 00:52:38,180 --> 00:52:36,240 the space program is an inspiration to 1456 00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:38,190 keep pushing on that and and so I think 1457 00:52:42,530 --> 00:52:40,230 just like Bill every dollar was worth it 1458 00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:42,540 and I think you know from my perspective 1459 00:52:48,140 --> 00:52:45,119 take a little bit of a different view of 1460 00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,150 it i'm more of a philosophical person 1461 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:50,160 when it comes to describing the benefits 1462 00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:52,650 of the shuttle program and the station 1463 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:56,310 program you know we've we've gone into 1464 00:52:59,660 --> 00:52:58,170 international partnerships and low Earth 1465 00:53:02,930 --> 00:52:59,670 orbit something that hadn't been done 1466 00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:02,940 before except for one test flight we 1467 00:53:06,260 --> 00:53:04,440 started that with a mere program and 1468 00:53:08,420 --> 00:53:06,270 prove that that we could do that with 1469 00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:08,430 the Russians International Space Station 1470 00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:09,900 program look at that and the 1471 00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:11,400 partnerships that evolved over time 1472 00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:13,859 there and it's not too much of a stretch 1473 00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,630 to think of Star Trek and the 1474 00:53:21,050 --> 00:53:17,520 international flavor of the bridge of 1475 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,060 the spaceship Star Trek Enterprise so 1476 00:53:26,810 --> 00:53:23,280 we're really beginning the next the next 1477 00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:26,820 step of evolution in off of the planet 1478 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:29,700 Earth I mean exploration is in the human 1479 00:53:34,550 --> 00:53:32,250 soul it's what we do it's part of what 1480 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:34,560 makes humans human and I believe 1481 00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,570 learning to live and work and low Earth 1482 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:38,400 orbit is the next step in that evolution 1483 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:40,410 and and and the next step after that 1484 00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:42,330 will be to maybe back to the moon maybe 1485 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:44,520 to an ER near-earth object maybe to Mars 1486 00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,770 I don't know but I do know that that 1487 00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,720 living learning to live and work in 1488 00:53:52,339 --> 00:53:50,160 low-earth orbit was the next logical 1489 00:53:54,380 --> 00:53:52,349 step and the shuttle program has proven 1490 00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:54,390 that and it's part of an evolutionary 1491 00:53:59,599 --> 00:53:56,520 process that the species will go through 1492 00:54:01,460 --> 00:53:59,609 for eons and so we will look back on 1493 00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:01,470 this I'd like to be reincarnated two or 1494 00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:03,510 three hundred years from now on and see 1495 00:54:08,359 --> 00:54:05,700 what and see what Marvel's are going to 1496 00:54:11,060 --> 00:54:08,369 be with us on this planet and elsewhere 1497 00:54:12,020 --> 00:54:11,070 of course that's not possible so we're 1498 00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:12,030 doing now what 1499 00:54:16,580 --> 00:54:14,160 what we're setting up for the next step 1500 00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:16,590 in evolution of space exploration and 1501 00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:19,800 I'm looking forward to seeing it will 1502 00:54:23,330 --> 00:54:21,660 take one last question here from richer 1503 00:54:25,730 --> 00:54:23,340 before we let these gentlemen go for the 1504 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:25,740 day go ahead Richard luscombe for the 1505 00:54:30,740 --> 00:54:28,530 guardian for anyone who fancies it we're 1506 00:54:32,810 --> 00:54:30,750 now about to enter a period and extended 1507 00:54:34,820 --> 00:54:32,820 period of no manned launches from the 1508 00:54:36,290 --> 00:54:34,830 American space program here and when 1509 00:54:37,940 --> 00:54:36,300 previous programs are finished there's 1510 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:37,950 always been a follow-on program coming 1511 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:41,490 there's still uncertainty now how will 1512 00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:43,050 sort of things do you point to that NASA 1513 00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:44,670 is going to continue to do during that 1514 00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:47,730 period to inspire children to continue 1515 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:49,740 to want to take up careers in science 1516 00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:52,650 and engineering and space how difficult 1517 00:54:56,330 --> 00:54:54,660 is it going to be without launch is 1518 00:55:01,100 --> 00:54:56,340 taking place mayor to keep that 1519 00:55:02,780 --> 00:55:01,110 inspiration you know I think one thing 1520 00:55:06,020 --> 00:55:02,790 we need to think about is how we use 1521 00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:06,030 station in more of a real world you know 1522 00:55:08,990 --> 00:55:07,680 it's it's really nice when you can come 1523 00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,000 here to Kennedy and you can watch a 1524 00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,040 launch because then in a sense you can 1525 00:55:15,980 --> 00:55:13,200 participate in that launch right you can 1526 00:55:18,110 --> 00:55:15,990 you can see the launch you can feel the 1527 00:55:21,590 --> 00:55:18,120 sound waves reflect off your body and in 1528 00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:21,600 a sense you get a real tangible feel for 1529 00:55:25,460 --> 00:55:23,430 what's going on what we need to think 1530 00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:25,470 about is in station through through 1531 00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:28,710 maybe internet connections let students 1532 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:30,180 actually robotically we're letting 1533 00:55:34,970 --> 00:55:32,490 robotically now program spacecraft that 1534 00:55:37,310 --> 00:55:34,980 fly inside space station so how can we 1535 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:37,320 give more of a real feel to students of 1536 00:55:40,340 --> 00:55:38,910 what's going on with space station so 1537 00:55:42,830 --> 00:55:40,350 they can get a sense that they're part 1538 00:55:45,230 --> 00:55:42,840 of the program and it's not just you 1539 00:55:47,050 --> 00:55:45,240 know select few folks doing experiments 1540 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:47,060 in space how can we make station 1541 00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:49,890 activities more real to students and and 1542 00:55:53,420 --> 00:55:51,510 we see that even you know we're doing 1543 00:55:55,340 --> 00:55:53,430 some of these tweetup activities here 1544 00:55:57,710 --> 00:55:55,350 where we bring folks in to talk about 1545 00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:57,720 things we're doing some Ron Garon's 1546 00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,490 doing a fragile planet activity from 1547 00:56:02,780 --> 00:56:01,200 space station and connecting through 1548 00:56:04,370 --> 00:56:02,790 social media with folks here on the 1549 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:04,380 ground so we need to figure out a way 1550 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:06,330 that we could we can bridge a more 1551 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:08,970 tangible real feel to what we're doing 1552 00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:10,650 on station so station doesn't get 1553 00:56:15,980 --> 00:56:12,750 bypassed you know there's lots of 1554 00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:15,990 benefits on station that can occur we 1555 00:56:19,460 --> 00:56:17,460 may find there's some medical things 1556 00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:19,470 that are better investigated in space 1557 00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,880 than they are on the ground that may 1558 00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:23,040 spawn off a commercial market for some 1559 00:56:24,990 --> 00:56:24,390 of those medical things and might be 1560 00:56:27,090 --> 00:56:25,000 another 1561 00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:27,100 Space Station dedicated that particular 1562 00:56:31,410 --> 00:56:29,110 activity so we need to see this 1563 00:56:33,660 --> 00:56:31,420 transition of where it was predominantly 1564 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:33,670 a government activity to now where we'll 1565 00:56:36,270 --> 00:56:35,290 be maybe some more commercial activities 1566 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:36,280 are starting to see that a little bit 1567 00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:38,770 with the cargo resupply of station we'll 1568 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:40,630 see how those new cargo resupply 1569 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:42,610 companies online come online this year 1570 00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:44,410 they're going to do their demonstration 1571 00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:46,600 flights this fall and then start more 1572 00:56:50,850 --> 00:56:48,460 regular service next year that's going 1573 00:56:52,650 --> 00:56:50,860 to be a huge challenge for them as we 1574 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:52,660 know how difficult it is to operate 1575 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:54,970 spacecraft and launch vehicles it'll be 1576 00:56:58,170 --> 00:56:56,290 interesting to see how they step up to 1577 00:57:00,000 --> 00:56:58,180 that that's another opportunity for 1578 00:57:01,650 --> 00:57:00,010 students and kids to get involved in 1579 00:57:04,290 --> 00:57:01,660 that activity and then Commercial Crew 1580 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:04,300 may come along online it won't be too 1581 00:57:08,910 --> 00:57:06,130 long until we've got we've got the Orion 1582 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:08,920 capsule or Orion MPCV multi-purpose crew 1583 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:11,530 vehicle started so we're off working in 1584 00:57:14,790 --> 00:57:12,970 that activity so we can get some 1585 00:57:16,890 --> 00:57:14,800 students involved in that too so I think 1586 00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:16,900 we need to take advantage of this period 1587 00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:19,480 and don't let the momentum that we have 1588 00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:21,550 right now fall behind and did just fall 1589 00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:23,860 back on our heels and just sit back and 1590 00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:25,900 lament about what we had we need to be 1591 00:57:29,850 --> 00:57:27,670 looking forward about what the future is 1592 00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:29,860 and driving for that future are our 1593 00:57:33,930 --> 00:57:31,270 politicians are not going to support 1594 00:57:36,060 --> 00:57:33,940 that future if we the space community 1595 00:57:37,770 --> 00:57:36,070 zealots don't be push don't push for 1596 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:37,780 that future there's no way we can expect 1597 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:40,240 a politicians to step up and give us a 1598 00:57:44,130 --> 00:57:41,890 future in point us in the direction we 1599 00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:44,140 need to stay united keep moving forward 1600 00:57:50,690 --> 00:57:46,390 and show folks why we work so hard for 1601 00:57:54,450 --> 00:57:50,700 what we do every day here mike and mike 1602 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:54,460 you said great all right well said thank 1603 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:56,410 you very much when i invite you to tune 1604 00:58:00,780 --> 00:57:58,090 into and ask the television on thursday 1605 00:58:02,850 --> 00:58:00,790 for a full day's worth of sts-135 1606 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:02,860 pre-flight briefings beginning at nine 1607 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:05,650 a.m. eastern time on july 4th the 1608 00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:07,690 commander Chris Ferguson and his crew 1609 00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:09,280 arrives here at Kennedy Space Center at 1610 00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:11,920 2 45 p.m. that also will be carried live 1611 00:58:16,830 --> 00:58:14,680 on NASA television and again launch now 1612 00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:16,840 officially set for july eight eleven 1613 00:58:21,450 --> 00:58:19,390 twenty six a.m. eastern time you can 1614 00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:21,460 keep track of sts-135 and all the